8/1/2014 8:47:20 PM

my favorite stephen king book. read it twice.

8/1/2014 11:42:21 PM

yeah, I'm not too keen on bringing a person into the US with a virus that we can only contain by letting it kill all the people in a remote area and burn itself out...

8/2/2014 9:24:43 AM

That's because you are very dumb

8/2/2014 11:28:51 AM

OFFICAL: EBOLA IS IN THE UNITED STATES
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/08/02/dr-kent-brantly-named-first-ebola-patient-arrives-back-in-us/

8/2/2014 7:04:20 PM

im pretty sure nothing is going to happen, but it still seems damn reckless

those guys tampering with the flu are worse though; ebola isnt as contagious as movies make it out to be

those superflus they make in the name of vaccines and research make ebola look like a pussy

thats what will wipe us out; some chinese scientist in this country was recently censored for his work

8/2/2014 9:56:15 PM

8/4/2014 11:01:54 PM

Aerosol transmission may be possible, and certainly has been in earlier outbreaks.

8/5/2014 10:30:20 AM

it's only bodily fluids, you really need direct contact or need to be standing in their face when they sneeze on you

8/5/2014 10:59:14 AM

Let's all play Seven Minutes in Ebola Victim Heaven in the nearest walk-in closet. You first.

Aerosols from pigs infected with the Reston strain were particular hardy.

8/5/2014 12:29:09 PM

not to humans, and only to Monkeys when placed in a room right beside each other for a couple weeks so they can't say it wasn't from droplets in the air or from cleaning

8/5/2014 1:02:25 PM

cant find the liberal credibility watch thread, but nobody gives a shit about it anyway

fun times in the news today:

joe biden called africa a country like, oh i dont know, some dumb bitch that you guys are obsessed with

msnbc stated that obama is in fact from kenya during their coverage of the africa leaders summit

dont forget though, conservatives and especially george bush are dumbasses

8/6/2014 1:54:06 PM

Does that hurt your feelings, sunshine?

Wanna talk about it?

8/6/2014 2:18:40 PM

Joe "Rhetorical Flourishes" Biden Gaffes
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Main Stream Media Credibility Watch
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Liberal Credibility Watch
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8/6/2014 2:46:17 PM

We've long known Joe Biden is a dunderhead. Late night talk shows make fun of him like they did Bush.

8/6/2014 4:46:40 PM

My work mentor/boss claims that Obama is perpetuating the child illegal immigration thing in order to beef up his votes.....

plus he's a traitor and needs to be impeached for ruining the US's positition as a world leader and military dominance....

I bit my tongue

8/6/2014 10:14:17 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/06/transparency-troubles-audit-finds-61b-gap-in-federal-spending-site/

8/6/2014 10:17:57 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/07/millions-uninsured-americans-exempt-from-obamacare-penalties-in-2016-watchdog/?intcmp=latestnews

8/7/2014 1:14:58 PM

so that's plus credibility, right?

8/7/2014 1:17:06 PM

14,000 people trapped in Iraq with no water, power, food and a threat of violence: we must act now.

1 million people trapped in Gaza with no water food or piwer and sustained violence for 3 weeks: ???

[Edited on August 8, 2014 at 11:46 AM. Reason : OMG Christians are in trouble!!!!!]

8/8/2014 11:43:05 AM

Does ??? mean send millions of dollars to the occupying force?

8/8/2014 12:49:37 PM

I've seen a few Facebook posts painting this as a Christian genocide, ignoring the fact Isis has killed way more muslims, and hates the other kind of muslims just as much.

8/8/2014 1:01:15 PM

We don't care about dead muslims

8/8/2014 1:03:10 PM

Quote :

"In announcing the seizure of the strategically critical dam, Mr. Obama mixed his message with a warning to Iraqi leaders not to use the heightened American military support as an excuse to slow down political reconciliation."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/19/world/middleeast/iraq-mosul-dam.html?_r=0

I think Obama has done a good job so far with how he handle this.

8/18/2014 10:17:21 PM

so obamas leisure activities have been thrashed around here quite a bit, and it seems that despite being a favorite conservative talking point he doesnt really golf etc more than any other recent president...

so how about the timing of his golf outings rather than the frequency? it seems he was golfing before and after his ISIS beheading speech the other day and some are portraying that as insensitive or even monstrous!

thoughts?

8/21/2014 11:18:16 AM

Now watch this drive!

Anyway who gives a fuck besides a partisan hack?

8/21/2014 11:21:33 AM

who gives a fuck besides a partisan hack?

8/21/2014 11:27:31 AM

Is it being a partisan hack to ask that the current president be treated the same as the previous one? People bitched about Bush playing golf.

8/21/2014 11:38:23 AM

they were mostly partisan hacks too.

8/21/2014 11:42:12 AM

yeah, the partisan hack comment still applies

8/21/2014 11:43:52 AM

Optics don't matter when a democrat is in the White House.

Got it. Seriously, that's all you had to say (and that's completely fine).

There is no need to be douchebags.

8/21/2014 11:58:12 AM

^partisan hack

8/21/2014 11:59:54 AM

Quote :

"Four minutes after leaving the podium Obama teed-off and was seen laughing with friends and fist-bumping them during a five-hour round at Farm Neck Golf Course on Martha's Vineyard - his seventh 18-holes in ten days."

I don't know what you're so upset about. This is clearly the type of respectful behavior that the family of the deceased deserves. I'm on your side.

Quote :

"Like Democrats and many Republicans alike, I’ve defended the president regarding the vacations or golf excursions he has chosen to take during his tenure. Obvious statement here, but it’s a stressful, intense, non-stop job. Just look at the way every president ages so quickly upon entering the office. Downtime and reflection is a must, and as a not-so-great southpaw golfer myself (4-5 times per year), it can be a cathartic, relaxing experience to recharge the batteries (when hitting it straight, anyway). As for playing too often, Mr. Obama has played 190 rounds as president, which sounds like a lot until considering Dwight Eisenhower racked up 800 rounds and Woodrow Wilson somehow got in a reported 1,200 (really, how is that even mathematically possible?). It should also be noted that the current president has also taken less vacation to this point than his predecessor, George W. Bush. However, for the president to play today — of all days — less than 24 hours removed from the horrific, savage, unspeakable beheading of American journalist James Foley, it’s becoming impossible to defend Obama on this point now. The president condemned ISIS as any leader would, but no more than 15 minutes later he was warming up at the first hole. Of course, the common argument seen on social media against those saying the president should have put the wrenches away out of respect to Mr. Foley and his family basically goes something like this: “What do you want him to do?” followed by some variation of everything from asking if the commander-in-chief should fly to Mosul to personally fight ISIS to stating the Oval Office is a mobile entity and therefore doesn’t preclude a president from doing the job, even from a sand trap. But optics really do matter. So does symbolism. And yes, action can be taken here."

http://www.mediaite.com/online/concha-after-foley-beheading-obama-making-golf-getaways-difficult-to-defend/

[Edited on August 21, 2014 at 12:07 PM. Reason : -]

8/21/2014 12:04:29 PM

how drunk ya gotta be to take 5 hours for one round?

8/21/2014 12:08:01 PM

How long of a break from golf would be appropriate?

8/21/2014 12:11:17 PM

Quote :

"One of the infamous moments from Bush 43's presidency was the following from 2002: “I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. [Pauses] Now, watch this drive.” Obnoxious. Out of touch. Insensitive. President Bush seemed to understand just how poorly this kind of sight and sound was received by the public in retrospect after a truck bombing in Baghdad killed a major U.N. official and more than a dozen others in August 2003. For the rest of his presidency, he didn’t play another round. Again, by not playing golf any longer, it didn’t save one additional American life in Iraq or Afghanistan. He shouldn’t receive any awards for quitting then — more of a pat on the back for common sense and basic decency. “I don’t want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf,” he told Politico in 2008. “And I think playing golf during a war sends the wrong signal.” But we’re not at war now, right? Except we are. With the murder of James Foley and the promise of more beheadings of other captured American journalists to come, we’re at war with ISIS regardless of Obama’s desired legacy to be remembered as the president who ended two wars and brought the troops home. We’re rightly bombing ISIS from the sky; we’re arming the Kurds, who know how to carry the fight. It’s not Normandy or even Fallujah, but it’s still war. So please put down the clubs, Mr. President. For no other reason, just to show a little respect for James Foley and his family."

8/21/2014 12:17:02 PM

Honestly though, where do you draw the line? Should a president not participate in any lesiurely or fun activity? No more basketball? No more movies? No more books for pleasure? No more sex? What's the significance of golf except that it's more likely to produce a photograph? Maybe that's it.

8/21/2014 12:24:18 PM

When I bumped this thread one of the first things I said was "frequency shouldn't by the topic of debate anymore since obviously other presidents have recreated more than Obama."

Your comment adds another dimension, what activities are acceptable, and I have no reply. I don't have a personal grudge against those who golf or think vacationers at Martha's Vineyard are assholes.

I agree those criticisms are stupid, but apparently they've been made so often that now we have a "chicken little" situation and Obama can't be criticized for anything recreation related. The only thing I wanted to discuss was "optics" and I thought this was a valid example of Obama being out of touch / insensitive.

But no, here I get a George W Bush reference, a couple of fucks, and "partisan hack." I really don't know what it takes to criticize Obama if his supporters can't see how distasteful his behavior is.

Quote :

"How long of a break from golf would be appropriate?"

Longer than four minutes for sure, but don't tell that to NyM410 or dtownral. They would be fine with him making those ISIS comments with a club in his hand.

8/21/2014 12:34:16 PM

as long as it's longer than 2 minutes and 37 seconds it's fine

8/21/2014 12:38:20 PM

I think the point is that I didn't care that Bush did it and I don't care that Obama is doing it.

People, on both sides, who bitch about this kind of thing have lost the plot.

8/21/2014 12:48:18 PM

I don't think anyone's denying the optics are bad, but do you think Obama doesn't know this? It's his Presidency, his legacy, and if he doesn't care why should anyone else? He made a personal phone call to Foley's family and addressed the situation in a press conference. Practically speaking, that's about all you could ask him to do. Everything else is just window dressing.

8/21/2014 12:51:54 PM

I'm fine with that answer.

8/21/2014 12:58:31 PM

I don't like him playing golf.

Not because of the duration of his vacationing. But because of the recreation itself.

Golf is boring. He should be polishing his jump shot, instead.

8/21/2014 1:05:16 PM

We're always at war with someone, in some way. I have no problem with him golfing.

8/21/2014 3:02:27 PM

dude should start windsurfing just to troll FoxNews

8/21/2014 3:06:23 PM

I wish Michelle Obama controlled a ketchup empire.

8/21/2014 3:09:53 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCm9788Tb5g

One of my favorite W. moments. Now, in fairness to that idiot they were asking him questions about stuff while he was on the course. Still, a classic early 00's moment.

8/21/2014 4:04:11 PM

So Obama came out and staight-up said "We don't have a strategy for ISIS".

Now he's clarifying, 5 days later, that he was referring to ISIS in Syria, not in Iraq. We do have a current strategy for ISIS in Iraq by trying to weaken them through bombing them and equipping the Kurds.

9/3/2014 5:01:13 PM

Why does he allow those aliens come to US?

9/3/2014 10:54:12 PM

This ones for you JHC, and you said golf was boring,

9/4/2014 6:20:26 PM