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mbguess
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The Stop Online Piracy Act is the most important bill to be pushed through Congress yet, and it is just more proof that our government is willing to sign away more and more of our liberties to please their elite corporate masters. Indefinite detainment was one step in the direction of totalitarianism in America. Time for the next step. Its time for us to wake up before we lose our voice.

Brief summary: Websites suspected of illegally hosting copyrighted material will be blacklisted at the request of the copyright holder based on DNS.

The terms are purposely vague so that entire websites can be shut down and competition can be silenced. I hope you don't like posting music videos or cat pictures on the wolf web because if this legislation passes there will one day be no Wolf Web. Youtube, Facebook, and Google will be the first to go, its just another way to restrict and limit our choices for content by policing the internet.

This isn't about piracy though. The true intention of this legislation is to grant power to the corporate elite to silence ANY sort of dissent and that is why many of us see it as a threat to free speech. This legislation is designed to be used in this manner to maintain the current power structure and to squelch resistance.

Piracy is wrong, but this bill is not about preventing piracy.

Spread the word, sign petitions, let people know of the threat. Educate your fellow American.

Sources
http://lifehacker.com/5860205/all-about-sopa-the-bill-thats-going-to-cripple-your-internet
http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2011/12/16/hollywoods-pirate-cure-is-worse-than-the-disease/
http://bostinno.com/2011/12/20/sopa-will-kill-the-internet/
http://stopcensorship.org/
http://lifehacker.com/5869665/desopa-for-firefox-bypasses-sopa-dns-blocking

12/20/2011 4:47:51 PM

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Nothing can stop this now. Save your breath. Prepare yourself and your family for what is to come.

[Edited on December 20, 2011 at 5:21 PM. Reason : http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=599351]

12/20/2011 5:18:08 PM

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You've gotta be kidding me if you think the US government would shut down some of the largest companies in the country like Facebook and Google.

12/20/2011 5:23:28 PM

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No, but the content/opinions will be heavily censored in favor of corporate interests. Google will comply and turn over user data to the police, just like they do for totalitarian regimes overseas.

[Edited on December 20, 2011 at 5:26 PM. Reason : .]

12/20/2011 5:25:12 PM

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^^ no, but those companies may have never gotten off the ground if they had tried to get started under this new act. the biggest problem with this act is that it assumes that the foreign website is automatically guilty and then assigns what amounts to punishment for it.

12/20/2011 5:28:36 PM

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SECOND AMENDMENT REMEDIES PEOPLE

12/20/2011 6:07:33 PM

JK
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I'm surprised this wasn't on here.

I've never called a congressman until a few weeks back, specifically to stop this bullshit.

12/20/2011 6:58:15 PM

smc
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Aren't you cute.

12/20/2011 7:44:13 PM

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Thinking your Congressmen gives a single shit about what you have to say - now that's funny.

12/20/2011 7:48:21 PM

JK
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^yeah exactly.

12/20/2011 8:04:22 PM

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"^^ no, but those companies may have never gotten off the ground if they had tried to get started under this new act. the biggest problem with this act is that it assumes that the foreign website is automatically guilty and then assigns what amounts to punishment for it."


try again

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

12/20/2011 10:48:38 PM

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12/21/2011 2:02:09 AM

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qntmfred will have to format the gallery section of tww.

12/21/2011 2:32:04 AM

skokiaan
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Won't this just move DNS resolution to offshore companies? China will love this. International competitors will love this. We are ceding control of the internet to appease a lobby group that has been dying because they refuse to innovate.

The harder whoever pushes against piracy, the quicker consumers will sidestep them. Congress shouldn't be in the business of protecting dying industries that are filled with middlemen who are angry that they are getting cut out.

[Edited on December 21, 2011 at 7:36 AM. Reason : .]

12/21/2011 7:16:52 AM

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And people question me when I say this government is tyrannical.

HEY GOVERNMENT, STOP WITH THE STUFF.

12/21/2011 9:01:39 AM

Solinari
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We all thought DMCA was going to be the end of the world, too, guys.

12/21/2011 10:03:03 AM

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"try again"

no need to. youtube can fight the gov't far more now than it could have when it was just starting up. The MPAA wouldn't dare try to shut it down today, but it will issue C&D orders on specific videos, which is how it should be. Now imagine if all the MPAA had to do was just say "shut them down" when youtube was a baby? you don't think they would have done that back then if they had had the power to do so?

12/21/2011 10:24:33 AM

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he United States government is not an exception in history, it is not any more immune to the greed of men than any government before it has been. Special interests can, do, and will subvert our laws at the people's expense when able. Allowing congress to chip away at our constitutionally affirmed liberties in "the war on terror" will not spare anyone from a Jihad. In fact, the more obvious Jihad waged now is one against human liberty, waged not by Islam, but elite of the Capitol beltway, and their anti-free-market friends on Wall Street who crave special protections, and tax payer subsidy. They buy their prosperity with your children's future. NDAA and SOPA are abominations, like the PATRIOT Act, they are no less an affront to our way of life than the attacks of September 11th. Republicans and Democrats alike are failing utterly, to stand for our founding principles, rather, they are disregarding them entirely for the most hollow justifications.

12/21/2011 2:42:28 PM

Solinari
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^ we got a wind bag

12/22/2011 1:52:02 PM

lewisje
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^^^^the difference is that at least there's recourse for those whose content was unjustly taken down pursuant to a notification

also this time it's taking out entire domains rather than individual pieces of content

12/22/2011 3:25:54 PM

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closing down an entire mall because one store was breaking the law?

12/22/2011 3:40:23 PM

wlb420
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Vote delayed...Google and the like have enough resources to effectively combat this, the delay for 'amendment review' is evidence of that.

12/22/2011 3:44:16 PM

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http://torrentfreak.com/us-threatened-to-blacklist-spain-for-not-implementing-site-blocking-law-120105/

US Threatened To Blacklist Spain For Not Implementing Site Blocking Law

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"In a leaked letter sent to Spain’s outgoing President, the US ambassador to the country warned that as punishment for not passing a SOPA-style file-sharing site blocking law, Spain risked being put on a United States trade blacklist . Inclusion would have left Spain open to a range of “retaliatory options” but already the US was working with the incoming government to reach its goals."


We are god damn bullies.

1/5/2012 10:31:25 AM

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^ i hate the united states too in every way. spain isn't bad actually. we should all move over there. tons of job openings i hear lol

1/5/2012 1:53:48 PM

adultswim
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^
I'd actually love to live in Spain. Beautiful country, beautiful people, and lots of rock climbing I do not hate the US, though. Just our government.

ps. I can't believe you're not bored with this shtick yet.

1/5/2012 3:40:43 PM

Solinari
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^ oikophobe

1/5/2012 4:45:34 PM

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"ABC and CBS are listed as supporters of the bill on the House Judiciary Committee website, along with Comcast/NBCUniversal (which owns MSNBC and NBC News), Viacom (CBS), News Corporation (Fox News), and Time Warner (CNN). Disney Publishing Worldwide, a subsidiary of the Walt Disney Corporation, which owns ABC, is also listed as a supporter, as are other Disney properties such as ESPN and Hyperion publishing...

...Despite all of this, the response from American television news outlets has been to almost completely ignore the story during their evening programming. The lone exception was a segment on CNN's The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer in December, during which CNN parent company Time Warner's support for the legislation was not disclosed. (Though Fox News Channel has apparently not touched the story during evening programming, conservative/libertarian host Andrew Napolitano has run several segments vocally opposing SOPA on his program, which runs on the separate Fox Business Network.) "


http://mediamatters.org/blog/201201050008



This is worth a watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNQh56czKgc

1/6/2012 10:28:49 PM

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^

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1/6/2012 10:48:30 PM

mbguess
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"ReverseRobocall.com is the first and only company that allows citizens to send a Robocall of their own to one or hundreds of politicians and then share that message with the world. Not only will you have the satisfaction of delivering your message to dozens (or thousands) of people, but you can also share your robocall online with friends, family, blogs, the media, and the world!"


http://www.reverserobocall.com/blog/reverserobocall-com-wants-to-stop-sopa-and-give-to-the-electronic-frontier-foundation-eff

1/17/2012 5:11:06 PM

Lumex
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^^^Add Wikipedia (English) to the list of protesting sites

1/17/2012 5:13:56 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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Understanding PIPA / SOPA & Why You Should Be Concerned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBy7yooz3MM

1/19/2012 3:27:38 AM

eyewall41
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I wish there was this much attention on NDAA when that was being considered.

1/19/2012 9:09:06 AM

lewisje
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the difference is that we much more frequently violate copyright than facilitate terrorism

1/19/2012 9:26:01 AM

qntmfred
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looks like congress don't need no SOPA anyways

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/apnewsbreak-workers-indicted-at-one-of-worlds-largest-file-sharing-sites-megauploadcom/2012/01/19/gIQAJPIRBQ_story.html

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"Federal prosecutors in Virginia have shut down one of the world’s largest file-sharing sites, Megaupload.com, and charged its founder and others with violating piracy laws.

The indictment accuses the company of costing copyright holders more than $500 million in lost revenue from pirated films and other content. The indictment was unsealed Thursday, one day after websites shut down in protest of two congressional proposals intended to thwart the online piracy of copyrighted movies and TV programs.

Megaupload.com has claimed it is diligent in responding to complaints about pirated material.

The indictment says at one point, Megaupload was the 13th most popular website in the world."



[Edited on January 19, 2012 at 2:56 PM. Reason : we knew this, of course ]

1/19/2012 2:55:08 PM

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"I wish there was this much attention on NDAA when that was being considered."


agreed.

However, the problem is that the people directly affected by SOPA are manyfold more than NDAA. While NDAA is wrong in so many ways, the reality is that the parts of it that strip citizens of habeas corpus weren't really made public until the 11th hour. And then ultimately few people are directly affected, and American apathy blah blah blah.

but you start fucking with people's lolcats, and there'll be a motherfucking American Spring.

[Edited on January 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2012 3:00:59 PM

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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/secret-service-asks-for-shutdown-of-legit-website-over-user-content-godaddy-complies.ars


We'll get to it in a few days.


Maybe.

2/16/2012 7:46:52 PM

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We already know Go Daddy is a scummy website.


If their stance on SOPA wasnt a clear indicator, then their overly sexually provocative commercials treating women as "objects" to attract a horny males (read computer geeks) audience certainly should sound alarms.

2/16/2012 9:36:26 PM

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[Edited on April 22, 2012 at 4:00 PM. Reason : .]

4/22/2012 3:59:38 PM

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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insanity-cispa-just-got-way-worse-then-passed-rushed-vote.shtml

[Edited on April 26, 2012 at 8:17 PM. Reason : Obama says he'll veto it, but these fuckers are gonna keep playing dirty pool]

4/26/2012 8:15:49 PM

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^I was coming in here to post this too.

What the fuck is wrong with our government these days?

4/26/2012 8:55:52 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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Could someone simplify how CISPA goes beyond what the Patriot Act and the NSA were already doing?

4/26/2012 10:03:18 PM

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Doubt Obama isn't going to veto it.


Same rhetoric as the NDAA

4/26/2012 10:16:42 PM

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He is going to veto it right until November 3rd...then he'll discover he always wanted access.

4/26/2012 10:23:47 PM

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"The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, or H.R. 3523, just passed the U.S. House of Representatives after the day-long hearing. Originally expected to be debated on the floor of the House today for a vote tomorrow, the bill’s supporters decided to push the vote today and it went through with 248 to 168.""

4/26/2012 11:00:50 PM

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Roll Call-Who Voted for CISPA- Wall of Shame-Courtesy of Campaign for Liberty
Submitted by Paulreal on Thu, 04/26/2012 - 22:22
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http://www.campaignforliberty.org/profile/7788/blog/2012/04/...



H R 3523 RECORDED VOTE 26-Apr-2012 6:31 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: To provide for the sharing of certain cyber threat intelligence and cyber threat information between the intelligence community and cybersecurity entities, and for other purposes

Republicans in roman; Democrats in italics; Independents underlined

AYES NOES PRES NV
REPUBLICAN 206 28 7
DEMOCRATIC 42 140 8
INDEPENDENT
TOTALS 248 168 15

---- AYES 248 ---

Adams
Aderholt
Alexander
Altmire
Amodei
Austria
Bachmann
Bachus
Barletta
Barrow
Bartlett
Bass (NH)
Benishek
Berg
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boren
Boswell
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Broun (GA)
Buchanan
Buerkle
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Cantor
Capito
Cardoza
Carney
Carter
Cassidy
Castor (FL)
Chabot
Chaffetz
Chandler
Clyburn
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Cole
Conaway
Connolly (VA)
Cooper
Costa
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Critz
Cuellar
Culberson
Denham
Dent
DesJarlais
Diaz-Balart
Dicks
Dold
Donnelly (IN)
Dreier
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Flake
Fleischmann
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly Garamendi
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gingrey (GA)
Gonzalez
Goodlatte
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Grimm
Guinta
Guthrie
Hanabusa
Hanna
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Heck
Hensarling
Herger
Herrera Beutler
Hochul
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Israel
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Kelly
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kissell
Kline
Labrador
Lamborn
Lance
Langevin
Lankford
Larsen (WA)
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Lewis (CA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Long
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Manzullo
Matheson
McCarthy (CA)
McCarthy (NY)
McCaul
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meehan
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moran
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Neugebauer Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Owens
Palazzo
Paulsen
Peterson
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Price (GA)
Quayle
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rivera
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross (AR)
Ross (FL)
Royce
Runyan
Ruppersberger
Ryan (WI)
Scalise
Schilling
Schmidt
Schock
Schrader
Scott (SC)
Scott, Austin
Scott, David
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Southerland
Stearns
Stivers
Stutzman
Sullivan
Terry
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Towns
Turner (NY)
Turner (OH)
Upton
Walberg
Walden
Webster
West
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Young (IN)

---- NOES 168 ---

Ackerman
Akin
Amash
Andrews
Baca
Baldwin
Barton (TX)
Bass (CA)
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bishop (UT)
Bonamici
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brooks
Brown (FL)
Capps
Capuano
Carnahan
Carson (IN)
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Cohen
Conyers
Costello
Courtney
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Deutch
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Edwards
Ellison
Emerson
Engel
Eshoo
Farenthold
Farr
Fattah
Fleming
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Gibson
Gohmert
Gosar Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hall
Hastings (FL)
Heinrich
Higgins
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Jackson (IL)
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones
Kaptur
Keating
Kildee
Kind
Kucinich
Landry
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Luján
Lynch
Mack
Marchant
Markey
Matsui
McClintock
McCollum
McCotter
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Moore
Murphy (CT)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Olver Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Pearce
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Pingree (ME)
Polis
Posey
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rehberg
Reyes
Richardson
Richmond
Rigell
Rohrabacher
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz
Schweikert
Scott (VA)
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Sewell
Sherman
Simpson
Speier
Stark
Sutton
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Tonko
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Walsh (IL)
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watt
Waxman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Woolsey
Yarmuth

---- NOT VOTING 15 ---

Blumenauer
Bucshon
Canseco
Davis (KY)
Filner Hirono
Holden
Maloney
Marino
McHenry Paul
Pence
Rangel
Sires
Slaughter

4/28/2012 1:56:22 PM

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[Edited on April 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM. Reason : nm]

4/28/2012 2:16:41 PM

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5/1/2012 12:05:12 AM

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"Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a self-protected entity may, for cybersecurity purposes — (i) use cybersecurity systems to identify and obtain cyber threat information to protect the rights and property of such self-protected entity; and (ii) share such cyber threat information with any other entity, including the Federal Government…"


Renee Ellmers voted for it. And this takes precedence over any other law or legislation... some very well done analysis saying that this legislation is borderline in that it could very well mean that our 4th amendment rights are no longer guaranteed online.

5/1/2012 4:30:03 AM

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build up of propaganda. I have no idea what happened to CISPA, but I guess we will see soon enough after scaring us with articles like these:


Quote :
"'Astonishing' Cyber Espionage Threat from Foreign Governments: British Spy Chief


In a rare public speech, the head of Britain's domestic spy service said Monday that the West now faces an "astonishing" cyber espionage threat on an "industrial scale" from specific nation states.

"The extent of what is going on is astonishing," said Jonathan Evans, director general of MI5, "with industrial-scale processes involving many thousands of people lying behind both state-sponsored cyber espionage and organized cyber crime."

Though Evans did not name any countries, ABC News has separately learned from sources that the U.K., the U.S. and several European allies have a robust discussion underway on how to counter cyber espionage by perhaps the most significant state operator -- China.

http://news.yahoo.com/astonishing-cyber-espionage-threat-foreign-governments-british-spy-191653463--abc-news-topstories.html"



Get ready for cyber crackdown.

6/25/2012 10:34:12 PM

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