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Mr Scrumples
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Well, he's the one being trolled into spending beaucoup dollars on total crap. At least I don't have money tied up in the way I'm being trolled, I guess...

1/2/2012 12:19:05 AM

JK
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lets calm down guys

No one here is actually endorsing beats by dre.

1/2/2012 12:29:18 AM

Mr Scrumples
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your

headphones

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dr

dre

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them

1/2/2012 1:28:39 AM

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Two words for you, PHONO GRAPH!

1/2/2012 1:38:30 AM

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"You basically started out your conversation here being pissed that people aren't interested in your Beats Audio crap. Do you realize how ridiculous you're acting? I guess not, since you have headphones that say Dr. Dre on them..."


Pissed? No.

The guy wanted some honest advice and I gave it to him. Most people who label themselves as audiophiles are just prestigious self-righteous douchebags. They can't leave their feels at the door and judge something honestly. They're the same douchebags who scoff at a Lexus while they hug their piece of shit BMW. I have honestly heard BMW fans say that Lexus's handle too well. They're too comfortable. I like to think if I'm going to spend 65K on a car, that it's not going to be a piece of shit with such piece of shit being marketed as a good thing. "That poor handling, well it's intentional. It's a "challenge."" No. It's shitty engineering combined with good marketing with a prestigious label. That is exactly what you're getting with Sienheiser, bose, ect. People are willing to overlook Sienheiser's and Bose's flat bass, murky midtones and bled out treble all for the brand.

Then these same douches will then upsell their favorite brand's downfalls and downplay the strengths of the brand they don't like. Shit like "It has too much bass. I don't like the treble and the bass is bleeding into the midtone." Really? Of course the Sienheiser's treble will sound "clearer" when it has no bass. It's like listening to a fire alarm in a quiet building with Sienheisers vs listening to the same fire alarm with barry white singing in your ear.

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"I bet this kid goes to Best Buy regularly, so perhaps he should have read reviews about Farts audio directly from their site:"


Out of 59 reviews, 38 are 5 stars and 11 are 4 stars. The rest are the prestigious douches I am talking about.

You're the perfect example of what I am talking about. You have talked more about Dr. Dre and the Monster branding and nothing about the actual quality of the sound, which is all the matters, unless of course you are a prestigious self-righteous douche bag.

1/2/2012 1:44:13 AM

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http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-210-iems-compared-acs-t15-creative-aurvana-3-added-12-22-11

For an even larger roundup of IEM options.

merbig: You can read this guy's impressions of the Beats IEMs. They are pretty middle of the pack, especially for the price tag, but not bad overall. The dude has tested over 200 different IEMs so I tend to believe him over you or a hundred other people on Amazon who have Apple ear buds to compare them to.

1/2/2012 3:24:46 AM

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"Well, he's the one being trolled into spending beaucoup dollars on total crap. At least I don't have money tied up in the way I'm being trolled, I guess..."


Dawg, he doesn't own a pair of Beats. merbig's hobby is to spend ridiculous amounts of time making up elaborate trolls.

1/2/2012 8:07:22 AM

JBaz
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I EAT BEETS FOR BREAKFAST

1/2/2012 9:01:31 AM

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I don't think prestigious means what you think it means, dawg.

1/2/2012 9:46:09 AM

merbig
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^
Prestige:
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"The quality of how good the reputation of something or someone is, how favourably something or someone is regarded"


Prestigious:
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"Of high prestige"


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"It's shitty engineering combined with good marketing with a prestigious label."


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"The rest are the prestigious douches I am talking about."


I used the word correctly. What did you think it meant?

^^^^ It is one guy's subjective opinion.

^^^ I'm adultswim and I have nothing to add to a conversation, as usual, except for my pathetic attempt at being clever. I'm the same guy who thinks I'm cool and funny when I call out the script.

Anyway. I'm out. You can think whatever you want to think. You guys have nothing to add to the conversation.

[Edited on January 2, 2012 at 10:22 AM. Reason : .]

1/2/2012 10:19:49 AM

adultswim
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lol

1/2/2012 10:49:06 AM

JBaz
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WE HAVE BEETS TO ADD TO THIS THREAD!!!

1/2/2012 11:13:33 AM

Rat Soup
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i really hope i never reach the point where i gain satisfaction from trolling a bunch of people who went to nc state

1/2/2012 12:39:39 PM

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I think merbig is a welcome addition of comic relief

1/2/2012 1:24:21 PM

Mr Scrumples
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So let me get this straight...

According to merbig, I should buy headphones made by a company who has:

1. All but admitted blatant false advertising to consumers.
2. Is blacklisted from certain places online.
3. Has told flat-out lies about endorsements.
4. Fuels places like Best Buy with markups equating to huge profit margins.
5. Thinks it owns the rights to anything with Monster in the title and has threatened other companies with severely asinine and ridiculous lawsuits.

...and I could go on and on from here. Also this:

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"On April 1, 2008, Monster Cable sent a cease and desist letter to Blue Jeans Cable,[19] claiming infringement on certain patents[14] owned by Monster Cable. The owner of Blue Jeans Cable, Kurt Denke, previously a litigation lawyer, responded with a letter detailing flaws and shortcomings in the allegations of patent infringement, adding "Not only am I unintimidated by litigation; I sometimes rather miss it."[20]"


LOL.

Dude, you're entirely out of your element. I'm not sure what your argument is, but it sounds like you think "audiophile" means "hipster" or something.

Also, though you were talking about cars with this:
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"It's shitty engineering combined with good marketing with a prestigious label."


...you're trying to make some sort of correlation to headphone makers; especially ones that have essentially zero (0) marketing, let alone "good," and that these companies strive on word-of-mouth advertising because their products are well-made and have a reputation within the types of people who care about how something sounds. And they also don't have to pay someone like Dr. Fucking Dre to appeal to teenage knowitalls, and wieners like you.

Overall, the point is that you have headphones that you paid $200 for, you got ripped off, they say Dr. Dre on them, you realize all of this is what makes you suck - it is the PINNACLE of suckage, and you're in some sort of zone where you don't want to feel like you're the only one who basically got robbed by Dr. Dre and Monster. But don't worry, you're in a demographic. Unfortunately, that demographic is not "audiophile."

By the way, the Best Buy thing wasn't meant as a compliment. People are lucky enough that the company didn't take those negative reviews of their site, since Monster products are a huge reason why companies like Best Buy and HH Greg stay alive.

To reiterate one last time:

Your

Headphones

Say

Dr. Dre

On

Them.

>.<

[Edited on January 2, 2012 at 2:43 PM. Reason : k]

1/2/2012 2:41:34 PM

d357r0y3r
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Troll success ITT

1/2/2012 3:06:58 PM

Mr Scrumples
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He's dead serious.

http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=622138&page=1#15163673

Plus others should probably be warned that Dr. Dre and Monster are not where you need to look for audio equipment.

1/2/2012 3:16:10 PM

d357r0y3r
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That's a link to him trolling in another thread.

1/2/2012 3:20:06 PM

adultswim
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fuck. i think we're getting trolled by scrumples.

some meta shit

1/2/2012 3:25:51 PM

JBaz
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who gives a shit, this thread is the suckage. I'd rather listen to beets growing

1/2/2012 4:29:32 PM

JK
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my roommate said beats by dr dre are pretty good he knows a guy who has them and the beats sound good

1/2/2012 5:23:23 PM

JBaz
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o rly? does the owl agree?




he doesn't give a hoot.

1/2/2012 5:49:02 PM

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You can't just put velvet in the shit and think they nice headphones.



[Edited on January 2, 2012 at 6:07 PM. Reason : ]

1/2/2012 6:07:03 PM

Mr Scrumples
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Had to go to the mall today. I looked at some Farts Audio boxes, and they are indeed made in China.

Hahahahahha.

merbig you're getting took, dawg.


Electrical extension cord: $3.00
50 foot roll of Radioshack speaker wire: $5.99
50 foot roll of Monster brand wire: $34.99

BUT IT SOUNDS SO MUCH BETTER.

[Edited on January 2, 2012 at 6:40 PM. Reason : ,]

1/2/2012 6:32:57 PM

Wolfman Tim
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With beats, you get all 23 flavors of the music.

1/2/2012 7:02:16 PM

Mr Scrumples
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I bet this dude owns the Chronic 2001.



[Edited on January 2, 2012 at 7:25 PM. Reason : HIT DEM COE NAS IN DEM LOLOS GIRL]

1/2/2012 7:21:57 PM

Mr Scrumples
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wait for it...

1/2/2012 9:20:44 PM

merbig
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lol. All headphones are made in China.

1/2/2012 9:28:16 PM

Mr Scrumples
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So do you own the Chronic 2001 or what?

1/2/2012 9:30:57 PM

merbig
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No. I don't know what it is.

1/2/2012 10:33:35 PM

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I had to google to term "audiophile" to find out what it meant

but I feel better about myself now

1/2/2012 10:47:16 PM

JK
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mine were made in the USA

also who doesn't own the chronic 2001?

1/2/2012 10:58:46 PM

Mr Scrumples
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He's now trying to pretend as if he were trolling earlier, when in fact, he really thinks his headphones that say Dr. Dre on them are top notch.

1/2/2012 11:00:46 PM

Rat Soup
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never understood why that album is called the chronic 2001 when it came out in 1999

1/2/2012 11:29:44 PM

Mr Scrumples
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Because of Aftermath records/The Year After 2000/Something like that, probably.

[Edited on January 2, 2012 at 11:43 PM. Reason : l]

1/2/2012 11:43:15 PM

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I picked up some Klipsch IMAGE S4 earbuds a while back, I think they sound pretty great... And I'm picky as hell about my audio.

1/3/2012 12:10:05 AM

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"He's now trying to pretend as if he were trolling earlier, when in fact, he really thinks his headphones that say Dr. Dre on them are top notch."


I see you're just too big of an idiot to look past the brand and the name on the headphones to recognize that they are the best headphones out right now. When the others can catch up, I will consider them. But until then, have fun with your prestigious brands. When you can contribute something beyond "Dr. Dre, LOL! Best Buy, LOL! Monster, LOL! They sucks, so the headphones suck, LOL!" we will talk. As it stands, you haven't even tried to headphones or even made any comparisons to other headphones yourself.

1/3/2012 2:33:33 AM

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I'd rather buy bose if I want to spend money on audio stuff and don't mind getting price gouged. And Bose really kinda sucks now days.

1/3/2012 7:26:47 AM

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I remember when guitar stores were pushing the top line Monster cable really hard around 2000.

Friend of mine bought two 10-foot cords for some ridiculous sum like $55 a piece. They were two of the lousiest-sounding, poorest-shielded guitar cables I've ever dealt with. The $5 store brand ones were quieter.

Anything Monster has been a joke to me ever since.

1/3/2012 1:17:59 PM

Mr Scrumples
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Except for beats audio by dre a subsidiary of monster cable incorporated all rights reserved and protected under US patent and copyright laws and cannot be used without written consent, of course...

1/3/2012 1:35:46 PM

Arab13
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Yeah the dr dre ones are decidedly not the best ones available, not by a long shot.

1/4/2012 3:42:56 PM

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hahahaha

hey merbig, tell me what the best HDMI cable on the market is. I need the highest end shit there is!

1/4/2012 3:57:17 PM

Arab13
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I only roll with platinum plated wires.

1/4/2012 5:32:17 PM

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I have a pair of Etymotic MC-5 IEMs that I use for shows. They have no bass, but the mids are almost as good as my ribbon tweeter monitors and it only cost 69.99.

I also have a pair of closed cans, Senheiser HD-580, that cost 99.99 from guitar center. Been happy with them, they are very comfortable and very isolated, and the frequency response is decent. They are good for referencing your mixes on them.

My monitors are samson rubicon r5as. They rock. ribbon tweeters have fast mid-hi response and it is quite vibrant. They don't put out enough bass and people suggest pairing it with a sub.

I've heard rokit krks (the popular yellow cone monitors) and I'm not a fan of their midrange response.

My room isnt treated but i dont consider it a studio either.

1/4/2012 5:56:35 PM

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I really dislike the way those KRKs sound.

1/4/2012 6:54:50 PM

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The beats IEMs suck. The nicer beats over-the-ear headphones are decent but they're way too heavy on the bass and require some tuning to get anything audible out of them.

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"Have you tried listening to a cd? An iPod touch isn't a great source to be using with high level headphones."


Not really true at all. Depends on the headphones but the newer iPod touches and iPhone 3gs-4s have decent internal audio amps/processors. You're obviously not going to get the clean powered sound of a home theater amp but they're not half bad.

The biggest factors are:

1. source file
2. head phones

Once you tackle both of those THEN you can start thinking about buying a portable headphone DAC/amp combo for a phone/mp3 player. Getting a decent set of headphones is going to do waaaay more than switching from an iPod to a larger amp if you're starting with a shitty pair of head phones from get-go.

If any of you own nicer IEMs I highly suggest custom sleeves. Many companies make them and you can even get in-home sets to make the molds but you'll typically get a better set if you go into an audiologist. These guys make decent ones:

http://www.sensaphonics.com/

I've got a pair of Shure SE535s. Tested out a few amps with my iPhone but truthfully the lower impedance/higher sensitivity IEMs don't really need amps with some of the newer phones.

You SHOULD have a level actuator with you though. It'll help to knock out some of the extraneous buzz you get from laptops and cell phones.

Basically the nicer the headphones you have the less need for an expensive amp. If you ARE interested in a decent portable DAC/amp these guys are good:

http://www.headamp.com/pico/index.htm

or these guys:

http://www.ibasso.com/en/home/

1/4/2012 7:43:52 PM

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That ibasso D-Zero is kinda cool for $109. What kind of USB sources can it take?

1/6/2012 8:10:50 AM

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I believe the on-board USB is only for a computer for an external sound card.

The ipod line out dock cable:

http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-L1-Line-Cable-iPhone/dp/B003G8GZV6

Basically bypasses the built in dac/amp and sends the signal straight out to the external dac/amp from an ipod/iphone.

http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E7-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B003E6K1VK

Also another cheap popular dac/amp combo. Decent Wolfson DAC. Although I don't know if I'd use the FiiO on an iPod/iPhone these days. Maybe a laptop with a shitty sound card. Probably won't notice a huge difference on newer phones/mp3 players.

[Edited on January 6, 2012 at 9:36 AM. Reason : s]

1/6/2012 9:32:41 AM

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"Monster Cable (remember "Monster Park" 49er fans?) considers craigslist a "rogue site" for future takedown under PIPA - apparently 2nd hand sales of Monster cables by CL users is hurting their sales of new cables. (reddit)."


ahahahaha

1/16/2012 2:20:11 AM

JK
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^jesus christ. fuck that company.

1/16/2012 2:31:56 AM

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