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saps852
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not until ab admits he doesnt know shit about shit and everything he believes is wrong and that he is a horrible person and should probably kill himself in order to make the world a better place

2/17/2012 6:03:28 PM

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yeah its a bummer that we only get 1 day. But since nne of these guys have Evtimov genes, I think that it will be alright.

Hell this is what happens in the tourney.

^ That's not nice. He makes me smile every once in a while. I just get real tired of the GOP preachings, but i could say that about a lot of people/

[Edited on February 17, 2012 at 6:05 PM. Reason : sf]

2/17/2012 6:03:57 PM

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not my fault that you can't read a wikipedia article and see that it clearly says "the chance is half"

2/17/2012 6:05:06 PM

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"A player who stays with the initial choice wins in only one out of three of these equally likely possibilities, while a player who switches wins in two out of three. The probability of winning by staying with the initial choice is therefore 1/3, while the probability of winning by switching is 2/3."


SURE DOES

2/17/2012 6:06:10 PM

aaronburro
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look harder

2/17/2012 6:08:48 PM

saps852
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aha, I find your lack of reading comprehension and intelligence quite frustrating, I got better things to do on a friday night than try and explain basic statistic principles to a stubborn headed idiot

2/17/2012 6:12:56 PM

aaronburro
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all you need to know is answered right here
http://goo.gl/5i6Gz

2/17/2012 6:14:25 PM

saps852
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I'll take that as an admittance that you've realized you are wrong

2/17/2012 6:19:01 PM

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This thread sucks.

2/17/2012 6:20:48 PM

aaronburro
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thanks face for a wonderful trollportunity!

2/17/2012 6:21:45 PM

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ohhhh, so you knew you were wrong the whole time? right

2/17/2012 6:33:52 PM

aaronburro
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yeah, I kinda let off towards the end. not my best work. I'll practice more

2/17/2012 6:41:10 PM

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face is right about the fouls. what good does ending a game with 4 fouls get you? you wasted time you could have been on the court. you should come out to make sure you're completely rested to give it all you have for your time remaining, but not just so we can have you for the last few plays.

i know that's not what you were arguing about.

i think we win a close one as long as they have enough energy

2/17/2012 10:05:08 PM

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when we were playing tentative defense late in the 2nd half because we were afraid of fouling out (even though players fouled out anyway), Duke took advantage of that and started driving to the basket since they figured we wouldn't play as aggressive with our foul trouble

we shouldve just told TDT to stand in the paint and contest any shot, and hard...who gives a shit if TDT fouls out

2/17/2012 10:07:24 PM

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Can we get a new game thread and face banned already?

Can't wait till he tells all of us we don't get any pussy again.

2/17/2012 10:20:28 PM

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Serious guy applauding epic gif video for Face...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=-IpPPDYWexE

2/17/2012 10:36:04 PM

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piss on a tarheel, piss on a dukie, piss on a seminole. Lets kick some ass

2/18/2012 12:14:55 AM

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2/18/2012 2:36:01 AM

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i've got a student ticket i can't use. pm me if you want it

2/18/2012 7:08:22 AM

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This game has me very nervous. It is basically our last chance to lock up a tournament bid. As much as I want to think differently we aren't beating unc. It's a terrible matchup. A loss today probably solidifies another NIT. No pressure though.

2/18/2012 7:22:13 AM

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oh shit this could be big

even if we dont win the acc tourney or anything, a win over FSU (regardless of who's missing) is a chance at revenge that we dont normally get with the shitty conference realignment schedule

2/18/2012 7:52:08 AM

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Revenge against a team we haven't played yet?

2/18/2012 8:53:09 AM

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We need this game not just for a NCAA bid, but to the sake of future game threads around here. they've become a troll fest as of late.

2/18/2012 9:16:08 AM

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I just hope we are mentally right to play this game.

2/18/2012 10:18:10 AM

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Wood goes off

2/18/2012 10:58:07 AM

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"when we were playing tentative defense late in the 2nd half because we were afraid of fouling out (even though players fouled out anyway), Duke took advantage of that and started driving to the basket since they figured we wouldn't play as aggressive with our foul trouble

we shouldve just told TDT to stand in the paint and contest any shot, and hard...who gives a shit if TDT fouls out"


This is just wrong. With the starters out, we lost a 20 point lead. With the starters in, we built the half time lead. Even tentative defense by our starters is better than defense by fucking TDT. AJ got owned by set curry, and TDT and Painter didn't grab any boards. That's why we lost the lead.

Not to mention that our offense is much better with Leslie owning the plumlees, Howell grabbing the boards, and CJ making hustle plays. Did you notice that we also had trouble scoring with the bench players??

Having TDT foul is the worst possible option, and it shows that you really don't know anything about basketball. Since Duke was in the bonus, every foul by TDT basically gives Duke a 70% chance at 2 points. With Leslie or Howell back there, even if they are playing bad defense, Duke makes the drive shot 50%, tops. It is unintelligent to give Duke at 77% shot instead of a 50% shot.


- If we had an even smarter coaching staff, they would tell our players who are in foul trouble to play just as hard with 4 fouls as they do with 2 fouls. That way, we build the lead up to 30 before they foul out with 5 mins left.

- If they do start playing tentatively with 4 fouls, the lead is only 15 with 5 mins left. Still, our bench players may have been able to hold a 15 point lead for 5 mins.

- Instead, we picked the option that gave us the fewest quality minutes from our starters. We benched our star players and the lead was only 5 with 5 mins left. Then we brought them back in, they shot like shit for the entire time they were in AND they played tentative defense while we were down (not when we had a 20 point lead). Then, we had to start fouling intentionally and making desperation plays with 1 min left. At best, we got 2 minutes of quality play from them after we benched them at the 10 minute mark.

I would be surprised that many of you don't get that we picked the worst possible option available to us, but apparently some of you don't even understand the fucking Monty Hall Problem, which is just mind-boggling considering most of you are college graduates.



[Edited on February 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM. Reason : .]

2/18/2012 11:05:21 AM

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win out
acc champs
national champs
burn raleigh to the ground
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Does anyone know how to watch this for free on my iphone? The ACC app wants to charge me $7.99

2/18/2012 11:07:28 AM

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"If we had an even smarter coaching staff, they would tell our players who are in foul trouble to play just as hard with 4 fouls as they do with 2 fouls. That way, we build the lead up to 30 before they foul out with 5 mins left."


was face accidentally logged in as skokiaan for that post?

2/18/2012 11:12:12 AM

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I'm sick and not going to be able to go to the game today. If anyone wants a free ticket and can swing by my house and pick it up it yours (Off Ebenezer Church, north of Glenwood). Section 337 Row G Seat 8.

2/18/2012 11:15:58 AM

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"Does anyone know how to watch this for free on my iphone? The ACC app wants to charge me $7.99"


The only way you're watching that (nscu winning out) is to be drugged out of your mind for the next few months. Don't think there's an app for that [yet]

2/18/2012 11:17:23 AM

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the playing with 4 fouls argument assumes that every moment of the game is equally important as every other moment of the game and thats just not true. The last 5 minutes of the game are way more important than a random five minute span in the middle of the second half. You always want your best players on the court in end of game situations and if you have to sit them in the middle of the second half to increase your chances of having them at the end of the game then you do that.

[Edited on February 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM. Reason : .]

2/18/2012 11:33:35 AM

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^Actually, the burden of proof is on you to show that our claim is wrong. IOW, you have to show that having starter minutes at the end of the game are more valuable than starter minutes in the middle of the game.

In fact, it's not self evident why starters minutes are more important at different points in the game.

Prove your point

2/18/2012 11:39:28 AM

TreeTwista10
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the burden of proof is on you to prove what would have happened in a mythical hypothetical situation

2/18/2012 11:46:32 AM

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Seemed self evident to me but after poking around on the internet this is all I found:

http://theoryclass.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/foul-trouble/



[Edited on February 18, 2012 at 11:47 AM. Reason : .]

2/18/2012 11:46:49 AM

skokiaan
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That guy makes some good points.

2/18/2012 11:53:07 AM

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My two cents. i think a player in "foul trouble" should sit, but come right back in. The reason is the other team will then go after that player and try to get the 4th or 5th foul. also the player with 3 or 4 fouls will play at a lower level on D to try not to get the next foul.

I say bench him, tell him play aggressively smart and don't commit dumb foul away from the basket. and send him right back in. I think coaches hold players out way to long.

and i think we need a new thread "Foul trouble myth or fact"

2/18/2012 12:05:01 PM

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" i think a player in "foul trouble" should sit, but come right back in. The reason is the other team will then go after that player and try to get the 4th or 5th foul."


why bench him at all if you're gonna put him right back in? and why put him right back in when you just admitted the other team is going to try to get him to foul out? makes no sense

CJW got his 4th foul called less than a minute into the 2nd half...nevermind, this discussion is retarded

[Edited on February 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM. Reason : .]

2/18/2012 12:17:29 PM

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Kenpom says we will win by 1 today so I guess we will win by 1

2/18/2012 12:24:48 PM

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any free streams available?

2/18/2012 1:03:20 PM

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http://www.theacc.com/live/

not up yet but suppose to work: http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/108430/1/watch-(21)-florida-st.-vs-nc-state.html

2/18/2012 1:08:14 PM

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damn. got karl again

2/18/2012 1:08:35 PM

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http://www.theacc.com/live/

Who's the last true center that we had?

2/18/2012 1:08:41 PM

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"Kenpom says we will win by 1 today so I guess we will win by 1"


My sportsbook says we'll win by 1.5, so I guess we'll win by 1.5

2/18/2012 1:09:32 PM

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CJL!!!!!!!!1

2/18/2012 1:09:48 PM

HOOPS MALONE
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I have a sports almanac from 2015 that says we lose by 4

2/18/2012 1:10:37 PM

skokiaan
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Leslie saving us. Only one who can create offense, right now

2/18/2012 1:13:15 PM

skokiaan
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Howell needs to step up underneath on defense

2/18/2012 1:14:04 PM

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Nice to see us getting the benefit of some questionable foul calls

Not so nice to see us struggling to inbound the ball

2/18/2012 1:14:50 PM

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fuck WMG

[Edited on February 18, 2012 at 1:17 PM. Reason : nm]

2/18/2012 1:15:41 PM

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CALM DOWN INSIDE

2/18/2012 1:19:06 PM

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