I'm doing research here, a simple me, yay, i, etc. will do.

7/30/2008 2:18:20 PM

I like metal.

7/30/2008 2:18:59 PM

I used to

7/30/2008 2:21:22 PM

CURRENTLY

7/30/2008 2:21:51 PM

Not me. I just have Mercyful Fate, King Diamond, Sepultura, and Disembodied tattoos so scene chicks will bang me.

7/30/2008 2:22:06 PM

HEY, WHOSE CAT HAT IS THIS????

7/30/2008 2:22:35 PM

Sepultura was my stepping stone... that was the first band i really liked.

7/30/2008 2:23:48 PM

Yes.

7/30/2008 2:24:21 PM

just started cuz i got bored of what i was listening to. started with Dethklok on pandora and let it go.

7/30/2008 2:24:45 PM

i mean my TV has some metal components, so I guess when I watch it alot im listening to it hardcore...but as for metal itself, Ive never heard it say much...didnt really know it made to much noise unless it was dropped or banged on something....

7/30/2008 2:25:55 PM

metal, yes


hardcore, no

7/30/2008 2:25:55 PM

Metal.

7/30/2008 2:27:13 PM

your mom while i'm pounding her ass

7/30/2008 2:28:08 PM

Quote :

"metal, yes hardcore, no"

7/30/2008 2:28:41 PM

been getting into metal

dunno what exactly hardcore is, but I don't think I listen to it.

7/30/2008 2:30:31 PM

My mom turned me on to Sepultura. She has all the good 80's metal stuff.

7/30/2008 2:34:17 PM

Hardcore is a very loose term...lots of sub-genres. Also a lot of bands have been hardcore at one point and now arent....so its hard to say what it really is.

But here is a short list of Hardcore/Metal bands I can stand behind.

Misfits, Samhain, Danzig, Jimmy Eat World, Juliana Theory, Black flag, Adolescents, Suicidal Tendencies, VOD, SOD, Meshuggah, Hot Rod Circuit, Sense Field, Boysetsfire, Split Lip, Endpoint, Into Another, Harvest, Bleeding Through, Faith No More, Himsa, As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, Bad Brains, As Friends Rust, Bullet For My Valentine, Flogging Molly, The Business, Funeral Dress, Dropkick Murphys, Deicide, Circle Jerks, Dead Milkmen, Dead Kennedys, Ignite, Kamelot, Length Of Time, Deformity, Luca Tirilli, Manowar, Martyr AD, King Diamond, Mercyful Fate, Life Of Agony, Therion, Starkweather, Taking Back Sunday, Strike Anywhere, Sick Of It All, Madball, Slayer, Refused, Pantera, Minor Threat, Morning Again, Candiria, Dissolve, Mayday, Jasta 14, 25 Ta Life, Emmure, Terror, Burial Ground, Integrity, etc.

7/30/2008 2:43:11 PM

....

i like a lot of those bands but... umm i don't think all of them fit "metal/hardcore"
but that's just me.


[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 2:49 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2008 2:47:15 PM

metal, yes


hardcore, no



[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 2:49 PM. Reason : ^^ Some of those bands are punk bands, b]

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 2:49 PM. Reason : ^^ Ok, half of those bands are punk bands]

7/30/2008 2:48:48 PM

hardcore, as is commonly referred to 'round these parts, is the stuff with heavy riffing, breakdowns, and screaming vocalists

at least, that is what i'm referring to. original hardcore that spawned from punk is all good in my book.


^^^ that is a VERY loose definition. Deicide? Meshuggah? haha


only 3 or 4 of those bands are the hardcore of today

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 2:50 PM. Reason : sadfasd]

7/30/2008 2:49:27 PM

Quote :

"metal, yes hardcore, no"

7/30/2008 2:49:35 PM

yes, both and I love it

7/30/2008 2:50:13 PM

yes

7/30/2008 2:50:21 PM

metalcore

7/30/2008 2:50:57 PM

Hardcore of today = emo looking ninja mosh pits

7/30/2008 2:51:37 PM

See you people have no idea what Hardcore is. Emo has been loosely used for decades. And is a sub genre of hardcore. Bands like Misfits, Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, Circle Jerks a lot of times get listed as punk, but are the founders of Hardcore. Hardcore came from the term "hardcore punk."

7/30/2008 2:51:46 PM

yea

7/30/2008 2:53:06 PM

Yeah but flogging molly??? i mean i have all their cds and i wouldn't even call them hardcore punk
or anywhere near it...

7/30/2008 2:54:03 PM

if you want a good example of Hardcore (punk) look up The Bronx

you will not regret it.

7/30/2008 2:55:06 PM

^^^^we know this. I'm trying to make that distinction that I'm referring to TODAY's hardcore/metalcore/screamo.

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 2:56 PM. Reason : fucking fast]

7/30/2008 2:55:42 PM

bah

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 2:56 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2008 2:56:19 PM

Flogging Molly in the Mid 90s was heavily influenced by Oi, a form of Hardcore punk.

7/30/2008 2:56:54 PM

Quote :

"^^^^we know this. I'm trying to make that distinction that I'm referring to TODAY's hardcore/metalcore/screamo."

Same goes for me.

7/30/2008 2:57:39 PM

Ahh so Oi counts too?

i mean i guess but the influence is pretty weak now.

7/30/2008 2:57:54 PM

I understand what hardcore means, and I use it in the sense that blas is using it. I just don't listen to it, or really any of its related subgenres.

Hardcore can also refer to electronica that's closely related to gabber and drum and bass; I do listen to some of that. But it's such an overused term that I don't use it in relation to electronica; I only use it when talking about hardcore punk that spawned in the early 1980's.

7/30/2008 2:59:00 PM

Here's a breakdown of today's musics:

West Coast: Mainly metalcore

Midwest: Mainly sludge metal and grind bands

East Coast: Mainly straight death metal

Of course they have their exceptions, but that is pretty much how I see it.

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:00 PM. Reason : o.O]

7/30/2008 3:00:14 PM

Well i meant to more define it in the manner of paerabol

Quote :

"hardcore, as is commonly referred to 'round these parts, is the stuff with heavy riffing, breakdowns, and screaming vocalists"

But i do agree that isn't the original definition

7/30/2008 3:00:37 PM

^ Don't forget the ninja mosh pits involved

7/30/2008 3:01:18 PM

The question wasn't who listens to todays bastardization of once good genres. It is who listens to metal/hardcore. Metal can range from Black Sabbath to Dimmu Borgir to Slipknot to Deftones etc. Just as Hardcore can range from Judge to Scary Kids Scaring Kids to Jimmy Eat World to Soilent Green.

My point is genre classification is not a perfect science and these terms are about as useful as a broad with self worth.

7/30/2008 3:02:58 PM

i mean i guess i listen to hard core when i throw an apple i've eaten at a wall...it makes a *thump* sound..but other than that I didnt really know hard cores talked that much....or maybe when i freeze a coors can and drop it, it makes noise ...so i guess so

7/30/2008 3:03:12 PM

so where does Between The Buried And Me fit?

White Walls

7/30/2008 3:03:40 PM

^^^ HAHAHAHHAA AWESOME!



[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM. Reason : up]

7/30/2008 3:04:01 PM

Soilent Green is grindcore, imo

BTBAM = hardcore

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM. Reason : o]

7/30/2008 3:04:25 PM

i dont see how its something u can listen to day in day out

i like ALL forms of music, but metal is the only thing i cant listen to for more than one track

7/30/2008 3:05:12 PM

^ It's just a preference, some people enjoy it and others (who are wrong) don't get it and can't understand it.

7/30/2008 3:06:10 PM

And Grindcore is a sub-genre of Hardcore...kind of why its a 'core. So it is infact hardcore.

7/30/2008 3:06:16 PM

i do... but you already knew that.

7/30/2008 3:06:39 PM

u like crunk music too

7/30/2008 3:06:55 PM

im not a fan of crunk music either though, same reason

7/30/2008 3:07:28 PM

I've been listening to

ASG, Project86, beloved, underoath, demon hunter,Pelican, soul embraced, and kse for atleast 2 hours a day for about 2 months ( its my workout playlist )

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:08 PM. Reason : So is ska-core included too ?]

7/30/2008 3:07:57 PM