ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
If Glennon was smart ....he'd be very very happy his 120lb (looking) frame wont be subjected to college defenders just yet. He'll have more time to bulk up and learn the system. Hopefully we can chain together QB prospects in a year or so so we can cycle QB's and no longer have to rely on Freshman qb's to turn out to be all world, and we can give them a year or two to get ready to play. 11/22/2008 11:50:46 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
Glennon will get his time to play.
With Wilsons style, and his running instincts, I have a feeling that injurys will play a big part of his college football career, so Glennon will get his chances to come in and hit some reps, and then 2 years from now, we may see a dual system where he gets a few drives each game, just to mix it up ... and then starts fully his junior/senior years, depending on how wilson does/where he goes. 11/23/2008 6:52:25 AM |
brewski234 Veteran 309 Posts user info edit post |
Got to watch the game in a bar here in D.C. ended up finding a guy that was rooting for state as well, right after the game as he was leaving i found out from him that he was Wilson's uncle. pretty cool. 11/23/2008 9:19:31 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone know what the record is for the # of completions without a turnover now? 11/23/2008 10:37:16 PM |
jw27863 Veteran 169 Posts user info edit post |
Glennon will get his chance because I think if Wilson gets the chance, as I believe he will, he will go to the MLB and drop football.
Wilson will probably stay 2 more years and that could be stretching it a bit. 11/23/2008 10:45:01 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
^^ can't find a link for the exact #, but it's over 200. 11/23/2008 10:48:54 PM |
jw27863 Veteran 169 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ i thought it was somewhere around 205 but could be wrong
[Edited on November 23, 2008 at 10:55 PM. Reason : sry i thought we were talking about Wilson] 11/23/2008 10:52:39 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
Most Passes Attempted Without an Interception
Game 70—Timmy Chang, Hawaii vs. Rice, Sept. 27, 2003 (completed 42)
Entire Season 224—Matt Blundin, Virginia, 1991 (completed 135)
Most Consecutive Passes Attempted Without an Interc eption
Season 271—Trent Dilfer, Fresno St., 1993
Career 325—Andre Woodson, Kentucky, 2006-07 (during 11 games; began Nov. 4, 2006, vs. Georgia, ended Sept. 29, 2007, vs. Fla. Atlantic)
[Edited on November 23, 2008 at 10:57 PM. Reason : ] 11/23/2008 10:54:08 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
damn 70 passes in a game. His arm must've been like jello after that game. And wilson's streak came close to being ended quite a few times but luckily the holes' defense let our receivers rub off on them. 11/23/2008 10:57:07 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Trying to keep glennon is absolutely not worth getting rid of wilson early. If glennon goes, that just means that TOB will have to find someone else.
It's the coaching staff's job to either keep glennon or find out about his departure early so that they can work on other recruits. 11/23/2008 11:43:16 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
jesus christ. glennon transfer talk? everyone just calm down. 11/23/2008 11:44:24 PM |
JonathanL New Recruit 7 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson will miss spring practice for baseball and I have a feeling that Glennon might step up and be the starter next year 11/24/2008 12:28:38 AM |
OldBlueChair All American 5405 Posts user info edit post |
^ youre gonna lose money on that bet son 11/24/2008 12:40:12 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^^Shoot I think he has a valid point.
Glennon was in the runnings to start this year...it wasn't like RW blew him away in practice.
The staff felt that he needed a year to develop and learn the offense. 11/24/2008 1:06:39 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
after a season like this, i would be shocked if he started missing football for baseball.
man i'm as big of a glennon believer as you'll find, but wilson looks to be the acc first team qb this season, and you think he's going to lose the job next season?
[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 1:08 AM. Reason : plz] 11/24/2008 1:07:03 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I just wonder if this will create a shift in State's offense 11/24/2008 1:08:31 AM |
dwmcilmo All American 622 Posts user info edit post |
^^ true, but it's not like we haven't seen stuff like that happen before. It wouldn't be nearly as stupid in his case as it was when Josh Powell entered the NBA draft.
[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 1:13 AM. Reason : to the top part of your comment] 11/24/2008 1:12:21 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "after a season like this, i would be shocked if he started missing football for baseball. " |
RW was a 1st team all-acc shortstop, so unless he makes acc qb of the year he's still a baseball player playing football.11/24/2008 1:17:08 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
jesus fucking christ 11/24/2008 1:27:21 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Glennon was in the runnings to start this year...it wasn't like RW blew him away in practice" |
the coaches have also said that RW is significantly better in games than he is in practice...we'll get at least another year out of him at QB, maybe 211/24/2008 1:32:04 AM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
In practices he is known to try to test his limits to see what could happen, that is when he makes mistakes. Learns from those in the practice and doesn't repeat in games. At least the last 3-4 weeks of practice. 11/24/2008 1:33:31 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "RW was a 1st team all-acc shortstop, so unless he makes acc qb of the year he's still a baseball player playing football." |
a. wilson was not all-acc in baseball at any position b. wilson had starts at three spots last season, none of which were shortstop c. he is on a football scholarship
[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 1:42 AM. Reason : .]11/24/2008 1:38:57 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "RW was a 1st team all-acc shortstop" |
Not even close.
He wasn't a full-time starter.
Why did you just make that up?
[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 1:44 AM. Reason : ^Haha wow yeah sorry.....pretty much everything he said]11/24/2008 1:43:21 AM |
package2 All American 1450 Posts user info edit post |
"Plays quarterback for the NC State football team and missed several games while at spring football practice" 11/24/2008 1:55:38 AM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
Ye, I was at Kenan stadium and our O-line did one hell of a job giving Wilson time to look down field and find folks. At the SC game, our O-line couldnt block anyone for shit...but they've progressed and gelled along with our QB.
If things keep improving week by week.....we may find ourselves looking as great if not better then how we looked against UNC! Great job State O-line, QB WIlson, and our stable of RB-Brown, Eugene, etc.
Our field goal kicker needs some extra practice though! GO PACK!! GREAT WIN! How I wish i had tickets to the Miami game next week...that one is going to be one hell of a ball game! 11/24/2008 3:08:39 AM |
jh51085 Suspended 202 Posts user info edit post |
Ya this guy is legit. I was most impressed with him after he ran for the td, he goes back to the bench, isnt smiling, isnt joking around, isnt showboating, but just goes to the bench and sits and waits to go back on the field. Even after a great game like he played, he is still a humble qb and thats a huge part of being great, I believe. 11/24/2008 3:31:57 AM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "RUSSELL
WILSON
MONEY" |
11/24/2008 7:57:57 AM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "jesus christ. glennon transfer talk? everyone just calm down." |
Seriously. Chill out. I don't think we have anything to worry about. Not yet, at least. RW is almost guaranteed to play MLB, right? (well, that's what i heard, although some posts above suggest otherwise). He has no future in Pro Football. Despite his tremendous and much appreciated success, it's very unlikely he'll still be playing his (football) senior year, possibly even his junior. He's already in his second year in baseball.
Have you watched the Glennon videos?
It'll be nice if we have two quarterbacks we can interchange on drives.
[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 9:47 AM. Reason : ]11/24/2008 9:24:06 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
^As much as I'm looking forward to Glennon playing, it'd be absolutely retarded to try and interchange them during a game. The only time that seems to work is when you have two, one-dimensional QBs. You bring one in to shake things up a bit.
As good as Wilson has been playing, you leave him in as long as he wants to be in. 11/24/2008 9:45:47 AM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
I see RW playin one more year of football and then handing it off to Glennon as a RS-Soph.
If he goes one more and Glennon is a RS-Junior...then I think that's outstanding. 11/24/2008 10:22:49 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
If I was a football/baseball two sport athlete, I'd certainly go for a career in the MLB...more money, longer career, less chance of devastating injury...but I hope he at least plays QB a couple more years for the Pack...ACC TITLE HERE WE COME 11/24/2008 10:27:22 AM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I think Wilson plays his RS-Junior season, and if he's doing well enough in baseball to go fairly high in the draft, he'll leave for MLB after that. He's a character kid, and I would be surprised if he didn't stick around to get his degree, which would put him on track to be here through his RS-Junior season. This is assuming he doesn't take a ton of extra classes/summer classes, which seems unlikely considering he's got to keep up with both football and baseball.
He's the man now and Glennon is the man waiting in the wings. We need both and I think Glennon is smart enough to realize that and not get discouraged. Either way, the future looks bright for our offense, which worries me because I haven't been able to say that since Philip Rivers was here. Haha. 11/24/2008 10:36:35 AM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson's last interception came on the next to last drive of the Clemson game. Beck came in for the last drive and threw a pick to end the game.
The attempts without a pick stands at 203
sources: gopack.com and rivals.com for attempts since Clemson espn.com play-by-play for Clemson game 11/24/2008 10:39:24 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
What's the all-time record for most attempts without a pick? 11/24/2008 11:12:50 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
325 over 2 seasons, by Andre Woodson. 11/24/2008 11:21:44 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I think a lot depends on Glennon's character and how the coaches handle this. He seems like a good kid who might understand that he's behind a special QB right now and that he really has to wait this one out.
That being said, he's still an elite 11 QB. Most of this kids go into programs where they are starting by their sophomore or junior years...and you know they all have NFL aspirations. If the coaches can somehow convince him that he can show enough starting his entire senior year to make the NFL...and hopefully we'll be good enough in the next couple years to where he can get a good amount of playing time in 2nd halves and be satisfied with just waiting until Russel's gone...whether it's during his junior or senior year.
Bottom line...we have a great QB right now and it would seem at least a decent back-up for the next few years. And there are other good QBs playing high school now that we can sign and have ready to play whenever Russel and/or Glennon leave. 11/24/2008 11:33:54 AM |
Motiak All American 1497 Posts user info edit post |
I remember Mike Glennon said in an interview once that sitting on the bench isn't anything new to him since he sat his freshman/sophmore years in high school. Hopefully he really is fine with it (either that or is so amazing that he has to play). 11/24/2008 11:45:54 AM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Once again, it's crazy to think about that in pre-season, RW was a LONG shot. I mean, pretty much everyone thought Evans would get it. How things change. 11/24/2008 12:08:43 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13559 Posts user info edit post |
Well TOB and his staff have a pretty good track record at getting their backup QBs some playing time as they move along with their progression. Crane got way more playing time, including a start, under TOB then he did during Jags first year. Jags should have gotten Crane some playing time last year knowing that Ryan would be gone the following year. 11/24/2008 12:09:56 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
he can be the next matt cassel! 11/24/2008 12:11:14 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^ Word. Just as long as we get to be the next USC. 11/24/2008 12:12:45 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
word 11/24/2008 12:13:22 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I think RW plays next year and then goes MLB. Which should help Glennon get one more year under him, work him in some, and let the young OL get better. We're going to need a stout OL when Glennon gets under center and I think with the talent we got last year and with the coaching we have, that'll be perfect timing for getting Glennon under center.
I think you have RW next year and then Glennon after that. The OL will keep getting better, the RBs should be solid with Brandon Barnes(if as good as expected) and the young WRs we have(Graham, Smith, etc.), I think our O gets back to top-tier in the ACC once again.
Just have to hope to avoid injuries. 11/24/2008 12:19:31 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
ok, why is it surch a foregone conclusion that RW will leave early for the MLB?
I'm sure i missed some article somewhere, but why not play all four years, and then go to the MLB? 11/24/2008 12:21:16 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm sure i missed some article somewhere, but why not play all four years, and then go to the MLB?" |
Because no one does that11/24/2008 12:24:04 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
i don't care about baseball, so pardon my ignorance
but why not? 11/24/2008 12:47:31 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
There are 50 rounds in the MLB Draft. If Wilson has four limbs and a .150 batting average, he'll be picked. The only eligibility requirements are that he's completed his junior year or is at least 21.
Plenty of guys are picked in later rounds after their junior year but come back in hopes of being selected higher the next year, though.
[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 12:54 PM. Reason : ] 11/24/2008 12:53:42 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
If they don't go pro right out of HS and go to college, players must spend 3 years in college before they are eligible for the MLB draft. Usually the good players get drafted and jump ship after their junior year. 11/24/2008 12:54:30 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10250 Posts user info edit post |
because if I were a baseball player, I'd just be biding my time in school until I got picked in a round higher than 43rd
he'll get chosen in a top 10 round in the next couple years, and then he'll go 11/24/2008 12:55:15 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13559 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the RBs should be solid with Brandon Barnes(if as good as expected)" |
don't forget Curtis Underwood who has been pretty solid when he's played.
I'm glad this coaching staff can adapt to talent. A lot of people think that all TOB and Co. had at BC was pure pocket QBs, but they used Paul Peterson much in the same way that they are using Russell Wilson now, and TOB has admitted as much. I think Proctor the QB we have coming in will benefit from actually being able to wait longer to play. He'll be able to develop his arm more. I also think he will become a hybrid of the Glennon/Wilson style of play. Proctor is 6-2 and will be able to see over the line like Glennon, but is agile enough that we can roll him out like Wilson to either throw or run for the 1st down.11/24/2008 1:05:55 PM |