6/25/2009 1:25:13 PM

The hubris!

How would we have reacted to France getting involved in the 2000 election?


So why on earth do you think Obama should stick our noses in Iran?

6/25/2009 1:49:20 PM

hey, Boone, long time no see

6/25/2009 3:32:50 PM

^^wait wait wait, did you just compare the 2000 election to the recent Iran election?!

You are comparing an clearly stolen election, where protesting citizens are murdered and silenced to the 2000 election of the US president.........really.......you are honestly comparing these two events?

6/25/2009 3:43:42 PM

^^ Not long enough.

6/25/2009 3:48:20 PM

Quote :

"OMG, Obama's Iran policy is now the same as Bush's. Only one of them got heavily criticized for it..... "

lol

his policy is nothing like Bush's.

6/26/2009 1:22:29 PM

i do not care if obama stays or goes from the white house. I pray the electorate will vote out Pelosi & Friends from continuing their liberal agenda with their power they have on capital hill.

6/28/2009 1:10:36 AM

6/28/2009 8:13:26 AM

i hate that cunt more than sarah palin

6/28/2009 5:16:10 PM

Obama didn't flip-flop. You just misheard what you heard

6/28/2009 9:49:09 PM

I don't think imagining something in your head counts as hearing.

[Edited on June 29, 2009 at 12:49 PM. Reason : ]

6/29/2009 12:49:15 PM

6/30/2009 3:51:41 PM

^ LOL

Quote :

"Change We Can Don't Believe In"

6/30/2009 4:06:48 PM

^ nobody ever expected you to believe in Obama's purported change, so you can stop trying to parody his slogans any day now....


^^ that doesn't really jive with all the other polls out there, nor does it say that the actual "overall approve/disapprove" numbers are still 54/46 in the same poll
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history



[Edited on June 30, 2009 at 4:12 PM. Reason : . ]

6/30/2009 4:09:40 PM

The question only remains: will your pollster lines cross by the end of the year or the end of the summer?

6/30/2009 5:03:08 PM

Obama's flip-flop: 'Public option' again called 'best' path to health reform

http://tinyurl.com/q2cayg

Propaganda Minister Gibbs tries to spin it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXcosAN6ZvQ

8/19/2009 12:18:10 PM

^ huh?

Obama has always been a fan of the public option, he has just said recently it's not a "deal breaker" on getting the bill passed. That's not flip-flopping.

Flip-flopping would be if he was saying he wouldn't sign the bill if it had a public option in it.

I hope you use more sense than you're showing now when you grade students' work.

[Edited on August 19, 2009 at 12:23 PM. Reason : ]

8/19/2009 12:22:09 PM

^^^^ Soon he might be near 50/50.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HATE HIM RAR RAR RAR

8/19/2009 12:24:23 PM

^^

1. Take it up with the source of the headline.

2. Yeah, it's all shits 'n' giggles concerning health care--tell that to the reporter trying to pin down Propaganda Minister Gibbs in that video.

8/19/2009 12:37:18 PM

8/19/2009 6:10:16 PM

^don't forget Poland McCain

9/2/2009 10:35:42 PM

Quote :

"What President Bush and Senator McCain don't understand is that the central front in the War on Terror [overseas contingency operation] is not in Iraq and it never was. The central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9-11 are still plotting attacks seven years later."

--Barack Obama, September 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cug26zopm8c

Obama Is Considering Strategy Shift in Afghan War
September 22, 2009

Quote :

"WASHINGTON — President Obama is exploring alternatives to a major troop increase in Afghanistan, including a plan advocated by Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. to scale back American forces and focus more on rooting out Al Qaeda there and in Pakistan, officials said Tuesday."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/23/world/asia/23policy.html

[Edited on September 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM. Reason : PS: Sweet Jesus. ]

9/23/2009 8:05:03 AM

AP Source: Gitmo Won't Be Closed by Jan. [2010]
September 26, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxce3NaTnoo

Funds to Close Guantánamo Denied
May 20, 2009

Quote :

"The vote, which complicates Mr. Obama's efforts to shutter the prison by his deadline of Jan. 22, 2010, was 90 to 6."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html

9/28/2009 1:43:06 PM

Obama wanted funding to close Gitmo (it costs money to transfer equipment, troops, prisoners) and Congress denied it. How is that a flip-flop?d

You wonder why noone here takes you seriously, but I'll give you a hint: It has more to do with the fact that you are a full-on, foaming-at-the-mouth, intellectually dishonest partisan hack and less to do with the fact that you have conservative ideas.

[Edited on September 28, 2009 at 1:58 PM. Reason : d]

9/28/2009 1:56:54 PM

^ 1. I don't give a shit what you or your cohorts here think of me.

2. Obama campaigned on closing Gitmo:

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/15/101037/288

3. Obama vowed to close Gitmo within one year:

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE50K5M320090122

4. Obama signed an executive order to close Gitmo:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ClosureOfGuantanamoDetentionFacilities/

5. The Senate--which is controlled by Democrats, in case you hadn't heard--denied funding (in a 90 to 6 vote) to close Gitmo:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html

But I'm a partisan hack? Strange--since I belong to no political party.

I now invite you to piss off.

9/28/2009 2:15:29 PM

Quote :

"The Senate--which is controlled by Democrats, in case you hadn't heard--denied funding"

You say, right there, that it wasn't Obama that controlled whether or not Gitmo funding was cutoff.

Obama wasn't able to control his own party, but he didn't flip-flop on the issue.

9/28/2009 2:19:48 PM

^ Call it what you will. The fact of the matter is that it's yet another broken Obama promise on a growing list of them.

Obama shouldn't have made the commitment to close Gitmo if he wasn't going to be able to honor it. Did the thought of Congress denying funds not occur to him?

9/28/2009 2:28:36 PM

Not sure how this is a flip-flop either. Looks more like failure to deliver on a campaign promise to me.

9/28/2009 2:29:00 PM

Quote :

"^ Call it what you will. The fact of the matter is that it's yet another broken Obama promise on a growing list of them. Obama shouldn't have made the commitment to close Gitmo if he wasn't going to be able to honor it. Did the thought of Congress denying funds not occur to him?"

9/28/2009 2:29:36 PM

Quote :

"Obama wanted funding to close Gitmo (it costs money to transfer equipment, troops, prisoners) and Congress denied it. How is that a flip-flop?"

Didn't Obama promise to come back with "a plan" for transferring detainees as a condition imposed by Congressional Democrats to fund the closure of Gitmo? Whatever happened to that, exactly?

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for that "Blue Ribbon Commission" on Yucca Mountain to convene. You know, where we were supposed to be inviting science back to the White House, and not let petty politics trump science, etc. Seems like yet more empty promises to me.

9/28/2009 2:39:13 PM

Quote :

"But I'm a partisan hack? Strange--since I belong to no political party. "

I'm not really sure what you are. You seem to show little support for anything in what you post. Mostly, you've shown yourself to be an anti-liberal activist who regurgitates news snippets. But you're often a failure at that, even though you may not realize or admit it.

So, what would you call yourself? It's hooksaw introspection time.

9/28/2009 5:08:04 PM

TSB = all threads eventually devolve into discussion about hooksaw instead of any issues at hand

9/28/2009 5:25:06 PM

In fairness, the psychology of hooksaw's posting is arguably more fascinating than the content of his posts.

9/28/2009 5:43:52 PM

^^^ Thanks for sharing.

^^ Yep.

^ Okay.

Now, can we get back to the current topic?

Even though Obama promised to close Gitmo within a year, it won't be:

AP Source: Gitmo Won't Be Closed by Jan. [2010]
September 26, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxce3NaTnoo

Call it what you will--are you okay with this? Isn't this yet another broken Obama promise on a long list of them? If not, why not?

9/28/2009 6:17:15 PM

I'm not. What more do you want from me?

9/28/2009 6:51:24 PM

I don't think any of us are.

The question is-- why do you, hooksaw, give a crap? You should be happy.

9/28/2009 6:55:04 PM

Quote :

"The question is-- why do you, hooksaw, give a crap?"

Quote :

"So, what would you call yourself? "

9/28/2009 7:14:43 PM

Quote :

"TSB = all threads eventually devolve into discussion about hooksaw instead of any issues at hand"

9/28/2009 7:16:04 PM

So I guess this is the point in the conversation where you refuse to answer all questions until someone smarter than you sorta/kinda defends some aspect of your argument, allowing you to latch on and declare victory?

[Edited on September 28, 2009 at 7:42 PM. Reason : ]

9/28/2009 7:33:17 PM

The reason we're talking about you is because your singular purpose seems to be for everyone to care as much about this shit as you do. We don't, despite all the bolded quotes and the rolly eyes. So I don't know why you're here.

9/28/2009 7:36:33 PM

His entire purpose is to get attention.

The retarded posts are a means to an end.

9/28/2009 7:42:17 PM

^^ So don't post here.

^ What relevant questions posed to me here remain unanswered? In any event, both you and your questions are irrelevant--go bore someone else.

The topic at hand is Obama's broken promise--among others--to close Gitmo within one year. Do any of you have anything to offer on this topic other than attacks on me? No?!

9/29/2009 11:15:31 AM

Quote :

"The reason we're talking about you is because your singular purpose seems to be for everyone to care as much about this shit as you do. We don't, despite all the bolded quotes and the rolly eyes. So I don't know why you're here."

I've indirectly stated as much many times before. Generally, we should ask him how outraged we should be about something, but I suspect it's a 12 on a 1-20 scale every time he posts so maybe its a waste of time.

9/29/2009 11:19:08 AM

LOL - Hooksaw STILL doesn't have anything better to do than argue on the internet. I wonder how much time he takes out of his day to prepare these posts.

9/29/2009 11:23:22 AM

Quote :

"TSB = all threads eventually devolve into discussion about hooksaw instead of any issues at hand"

Quote :

"The topic at hand is Obama's broken promise--among others--to close Gitmo within one year. Do any of you have anything to offer on this topic other than attacks on me? No?! "

And concerning what I think the level of outrage should be for any of you moonbats, I don't really give a shit. I would offer that it probably should be as much as you would have for Bush if he were breaking one promise after another.

Change We Can Believe In

9/29/2009 12:00:59 PM

Again, I'm confused as to what you're trying to accomplish. Am I disappointed that he's not delivered on all of his campaign promises? Yes. Is this different from any single President in the history of America? No. Will I vote for someone else in 2012? Probably not.

9/29/2009 12:35:57 PM

Quote :

"Change We Can Believe In"

9/29/2009 12:38:24 PM

What the fuck is going on here?

9/29/2009 12:39:26 PM

^^I'm not sure what you're getting at. Care to elaborate?

9/29/2009 12:40:22 PM

Barack Obama under fire over trip for Chicago’s Olympic bid
Barack Obama is under fire from Democrats and Republicans over his high-risk decision to fly to Copenhagen to support the Olympic bid of his home town, Chicago.
01 Oct 2009

Quote :

"The president left Washington last night amid the private misgivings of fellow Democrats that he might squander more of his diminishing political capital on a failed effort. His hesitancy about going to Denmark – last week he said he was too busy – has also led to criticism of his decision-making while Republicans have questioned the value of the 24-hour mission with debates raging at home on the economy, health care and Afghanistan. Others asked if he would be properly focused on the high stakes nuclear talks with Iran in Geneva, which concluded as he lifted off from Andrews air force base."

http://tinyurl.com/ya2qjkz

Obama seems to be utterly incapable of either making a decision and sticking to it or not saying anything until he's decided what he's going to do.

10/2/2009 1:16:34 AM