Is it possible to rank the best Nato countries? The worst? Where is Turkey?

3/30/2023 11:16:50 PM

I know this account is not meant to be taken seriously, but yes, it's absolutely possible to rank them.

1 - USA. Without us the whole thing falls apart. Not even close.
2 - United Kingdom. Carries its weight and is powerful.
3 - Poland. Carries its weight and has absolutely no time for Russian bullshit. Surprisingly strong military.
4-6 - Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia in no particular order. Like Poland, only smaller.
7 - Greece. Spent a whopping 3.82% of GDP on defense in 2021.
8 - Canada. Doesn't meet defense spending targets, but can be counted on in a fight.
9-27 - Just rank all the remaining countries in order of defense spending, except for the bottom 3...
28 - France. Although they technically met their spending target in 2021, they're absolutely unreliable members who have pulled out of the NATO command structure for length periods in the past. I don't trust them to join in a serious conflict in any meaningful way. Maybe they'll prove me wrong, but past experience isn't reassuring.
29 - Hungary. At this point, basically run by Nazis.
30 - Turkey. Run by an absolute asshole, engaged in the occupation of Cyprus, hates and oppresses the Kurds, stalled entry of Finland and is still stalling entry of Sweden, not really a democracy at this point, too friendly with Russia too often, overall the odd man out and should get booted.

3/31/2023 9:08:35 AM

I know it wouldn't happen with Turkey unless circumstances became truly extreme, but are there established procedures to forcibly remove a member state?

3/31/2023 9:19:50 AM

I don't think there is any provision to do so, but if they really cared enough they could just interpret the preamble or purpose part in such a way to say that Turkey no longer fulfills their duty and thus doesn't deserve the rights given. I think some "international legal scholars" wrote some stuff on this

When it really comes down to it, nothing means much

3/31/2023 9:32:12 AM

^^^^

What are the criteria?

In military power: Murrca #1
In public health system: Murrca #bottom

Just two examples; state your criteria!

4/1/2023 3:46:56 AM

^^^^
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4/1/2023 11:29:13 AM

^^ Well, I mean, NATO isn't a government-run healthcare alliance.

'Murrica is probably #1 is private healthcare or outright medical care capability...and that also has nothing to do with NATO.

4/2/2023 2:10:27 AM

If the US left Nato, would other countries follow? Perhaps just the problem child countries in Nato? Would have to be contingent in easily returning to Nato if Trump makes the change

4/24/2025 12:17:12 AM