Quote :

"I'm totally cool letting the leftys get their way in 2028...it's only fair"

i have no problem with that

Quote :

"sometimes experiencing failure is necessary to find (or rediscover for those who have not sufficiently learned from history's lessons) clarity and wisdom. I see it as our civilization is an organism that has been experiencing a fever of sorts, and sometimes unfortunately the best/only/inevitable way to get over a fever is not to suppress it but to let the immune system destroy the inflammation. Trump and Mamdani AOC are both reactions to an unhealthy political environment (thanks obama). I don't think they will be fatal to their hosts."

[Edited on May 12, 2026 at 1:00 PM. Reason : I think the chances of AOC winning the primary let alone the general is extremely low, however]

5/12/2026 12:59:22 PM

other than being Black, what did Obama do to cause an unhealthy political environment?

5/12/2026 1:34:34 PM

that was basically it

[Edited on May 12, 2026 at 1:50 PM. Reason : obv not seriously blaming obama just using the thanks obama line cus that's when things fell apart]

5/12/2026 1:49:32 PM

Speaking as a lame white person, I thought the Obama years were pretty good. I certainly didn't wake up every morning with existential dread.

5/12/2026 1:53:31 PM

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"I thought the Obama years were pretty good"

agreed. that's why it was easy to not recognize the long festering rot that ultimately led to trump and why people were so shocked by it, which ultimately led to the woke overreaction, which is how we ended up with trump 2.0

[Edited on May 12, 2026 at 2:04 PM. Reason : we keep pingponging, crashing into the shores of history. we need to get back on course and stay in the center]

[Edited on May 12, 2026 at 2:06 PM. Reason : thanks obiden]

5/12/2026 2:02:09 PM

Centrist president did not solve the long festering rot therefore we need another centrist president?

Seems like the alternate view is that if we can't get a government willing to really shake things up, they will never be able to fix what Trump has broken much less put in place better guard rails to prevent in the future, so we'll just be doing 4 years of chilling before the next new Trump.

I have less of a need for my preferred next government to have leftist view points and more of a need for them to attempt a full uno reverso to restart budgets/staffing and then try to pass more iron clad protections for future attempts to go sound the congress, full purge of these unqualified and unprincipledTrump hires/appointees and heavy reform of the Supreme Court so they don't just rip it all up again (I like the traveling court/rotating panel from circuit courts idea). Once we get the country back to stability and add major protections, we can swing back for MFA.

Of course they will likely also have to fix a broken economy and the day they are elected, they will start to be blamed

5/12/2026 2:28:41 PM

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"Centrist president did not solve the long festering rot therefore we need another centrist president?"

centrists are largely RESPONSIBLE for the rot. biden, obama, clinton (both of em) all contributed to the decline of trust in moderate democrats. they were still imho clearly better than the alternatives when they were elected, and overall generally did a good job in office, but they all fumbled the bag in ways that ultimately opened the door for voters legitimately wanting alternatives, whether it was right or left leaning alternatives. my argument is mostly that moderates should recognize their own failures (actually doing something about corruption within the party would be the biggest needle-mover to regain trust imo) and voters who have been seduced by the fringe right and fringe left leaning alternatives should realize that their protest votes are in actuality worse for the country than the moderates they're rebelling against.

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"if we can't get a government willing to really shake things up, they will never be able to fix what Trump has broken"

i agree. i'll say it again - we're in an era of change. the US govt barely functions any more, and we are in desperate need of a dynamic political system that can respond thoughtfully (and with integrity!) to the change we are undergoing. most dems just want to uno reverse back to the obama world that no longer exists. we need to reinvent for the 21st century, just like our politicians did at the beginning of the 20th century as the effects of the industrial revolution were becoming undeniable. there's no courage among democrats to do what needs to be done though. they're stuck.

[Edited on May 12, 2026 at 2:56 PM. Reason : MAKE GREAT MODERATES ESTABLISHMENT AGAIN]

5/12/2026 2:47:56 PM

I agree with enough of that answer to not feel worth picking the parts I don't. Let's call it 70% agree.

5/12/2026 3:27:09 PM

i suspect it's closer to 85% but i'm willing to accept your mostly performative 30% disagreement

[Edited on May 12, 2026 at 3:37 PM. Reason : cmon guys we're in our 40s]

5/12/2026 3:36:10 PM

4-8 please. Not 1-3 please

5/26/2026 12:21:11 PM

Rasmussen is trolling obv

5/26/2026 12:47:47 PM

AOC-Pete super ticket is aligning

Talarico senate leader

Crockett house oversight committee leader

[Edited on May 26, 2026 at 3:24 PM. Reason : ]

5/26/2026 3:19:43 PM

one more meme before I get back to tokenmaxxing



[Edited on May 31, 2026 at 10:34 AM. Reason : MAKE GREAT MODERATES ESTABLISHMENT AGAIN]

ok two more



[Edited on May 31, 2026 at 10:40 AM. Reason : don't call me a centrist though. just trying to move Humanity Forward.]

5/31/2026 10:34:36 AM

How can you be MORE centrist if you're already in the exact center? It seems like a mathematical impossibility.

5/31/2026 12:23:42 PM

Just found out josh shapiro is 5'7". I think history has it that most ppl that short in the modern era don't win

6/4/2026 9:30:16 AM

https://www.hamiltonnolan.com/p/aoc-must-run-for-president

7/30/2026 12:30:52 PM

^^^^

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" The "independent" demo actually has all the textbook characteristics of a group most susceptible to propaganda, more correctly "pre-propaganda", and by textbook I mean literally Propaganda. "

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/09/how_does_the_shutdown_relate_t.html#google_vignette


A classic.

7/30/2026 5:27:53 PM

Nope
https://www.wsj.com/business/media/newsom-expresses-concerns-about-state-antitrust-suit-against-paramount-1bc20411

7/31/2026 9:46:59 PM

nobody has a harder “nope” than him

7/31/2026 10:28:52 PM

I'm trying hard to disagree, still debating internally

Feel like a case could be made for AOC and Kamala too

8/1/2026 12:41:35 PM

Buttigieg says more likely than not running for pres

8/3/2026 10:36:03 PM

Democrats finally learning how to answer questions from rightwing medi

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DY5Aq8ZOtv5/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Mamdani and Buttigieg also great at this

8/12/2026 1:00:10 AM

SC the first state now to have primary now. DNC stacking the deck, hoping for knockout blow against the more progressive candidate, whoever that will be then. Going to play up how southern minorities aren't connecting with the DSA wing of dem party in masse etc etc

8/16/2026 1:24:10 AM

Man The Coz is lucky...he gets to vote before anyone

8/22/2026 5:05:34 PM

It's true!

8/22/2026 5:50:00 PM

Gavin newsom said he wouldn't run if kamala runs. How about they both don't run and call it a day?!

9/14/2026 10:47:54 PM

I like it.

After all, they're for they/them.

9/15/2026 9:33:55 AM

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"I'm sure there's more detail to come under the hood but TLDR $PSKY bought off California by promising to release at least 30 films per year in theaters, and without California the other holdouts didn't see a way forward."

Gavin is not made for the moment

9/21/2026 11:22:51 AM

Pritzker on glp1 and has lost 80lbs so far, nttawwt

9/21/2026 5:53:02 PM

…

[Edited on September 26, 2026 at 3:58 PM. Reason : Wt]

9/26/2026 3:56:51 PM

Talarico

This guy from Hamilton Kansas https://www.c-span.org/program/campaign-2026/us-senate-candidate-adam-hamilton-d-ks-holds-rally-and-meet-and-greet-in-lawrence-kansas/685572

An Abdul El Sayed have been the standouts from the midterms

Crockett has fallen a lot. I think Newsom is struggling with some legislative missteps

Buttigieg AOC and Pritzker still in the running too I feel

But all of these together on a primary slate would be a good representation of the spectrum of the party

10/4/2026 12:47:51 AM

I feel like Talarico doesn't really want Crockett front and center anyways to not scare off the voters he would get that she wouldn't...but she just so looks like a kid that picked up the ball and went home rather than play. Like a sore loser or something. And the Chris Brown thing didn't do her any favors...just amazing how she has fallen since the primaries

Top 4 most likely to run: AOC, Newsome, Shapiro, Buttigieg

[Edited on October 4, 2026 at 11:45 AM. Reason : Make America Respectable Again]

10/4/2026 11:42:59 AM

^

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"we should probably all get used to spelling his name correctly fwiw"

fwiw

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/10/14/sen-jon-ossoff-again-said-he-wont-run-president/

[Edited on October 14, 2026 at 2:10 PM. Reason : see y'all on page 11]

10/14/2026 2:08:56 PM

Dang your post from way back got me reversed i specifically thought back to it when adding the e

10/14/2026 7:01:25 PM

Also clinton and obama said the same thing!

10/14/2026 7:08:43 PM

want a way to never ever again forget whether it's with e or no e? I got u...

Newsom? More like Blue Cum (see there's no e), amirite?

[Edited on October 14, 2026 at 7:23 PM. Reason : what a dork amirite]

10/14/2026 7:22:15 PM

This is one of those things once you realize you had it revered you will never mess up again

10/14/2026 7:43:57 PM

I really revere it.

10/14/2026 8:23:10 PM

Whatever happened to elizabeth warren you never hear about her anymore

10/17/2026 12:46:08 AM

GNSP

10/17/2026 3:55:59 AM

Dallas morning news endorsed talarico...idk if thats expected or if they normally endorse the repub

10/18/2026 2:09:29 PM

Very important development
https://bsky.app/profile/dieworkwear.bsky.social/post/3mzdqjexxps2x

11/2/2026 8:38:25 PM

Its like who peaks last?

11/2/2026 8:50:08 PM

any takes on how last night impacts 28 Dem primaries?

[Edited on November 4, 2026 at 11:16 AM. Reason : Ossoff moving up?]

11/4/2026 11:15:56 AM

I haven't looked into ossoff too deeply yet, but the last couple clips I've seen he just seemed like a generic handsome young Democrat who leans on his rhetorical skills. It's too much of the tired old politicianspeak vibe for me. inauthentic, posturing, focus grouped, feelgoodery to pander to the public while behind the scenes the real jon is playing realpolitics with the other powerful people. that shit ain't for me. I'd like to see him in a long form setting. Buttigieg does a lot of the same fake politician vibe stuff on the campaign trail or cable tv appearances, but at least you can get a glimpse past that when he does long form interviews and podcasts.

[Edited on November 6, 2026 at 5:31 PM. Reason : glad to see Kamala and bluecum dropping tho. where's shapiro??]

[Edited on November 6, 2026 at 5:43 PM. Reason : get shapiro on the phone]

11/6/2026 5:16:48 PM

Quote :

" I haven't looked into ossoff too deeply yet, but the last couple clips I've seen he just seemed like a generic handsome young Democrat who leans on his rhetorical skills. It's too much of the tired old politicianspeak vibe for me. inauthentic, posturing, focus grouped, feelgoodery to pander to the public while behind the scenes the real jon is playing realpolitics with the other powerful people. that shit ain't for me. I'd like to see him in a long form setting."

highly recommend watching highlights from his debates this past election. think you’d think differently after seeing them.

11/6/2026 5:54:31 PM

good suggestion. I thought I had remembered seeing a little bit of coverage on that debate, but I didn't pay too close attention to it at the time.

the machine told me he did a podcast with 85 South and Bulwark and mentioned the recent Vanity Fair piece (which apparently pointed out he intentionally avoids long form interviews...) so I guess I got somewhere to start

11/6/2026 6:08:50 PM

Is there anyone you like other than Shapiro

[Edited on November 6, 2026 at 9:03 PM. Reason : I might be OK with shapiro, better than others certainly ]

11/6/2026 9:03:17 PM

Quote :

" at a major progressive convention in Washington on Saturday, as newly re-elected Georgia Sen. Jon Ossoff cruised to first place. Harris, the party’s 2024 nominee, drew just six of 990 votes cast at Crooked Con — 0.6 percent — tying for 16th place in the informal survey. Ossoff, who has repeatedly insisted he won’t run for president, took 380 votes, or 38.4 percent. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) finished a distant second with 16.6 percent, followed by former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg at 13.9 percent. "

I’d be fine with an ossoff-ocasiocortez ticket

Really any combination of these 3 (no homo— nttawwt)

[Edited on November 10, 2026 at 11:57 PM. Reason : ]

11/10/2026 11:55:16 PM