Ugh, I said that badly.

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:06 AM. Reason : They can be related, but they don't have to be.]

10/1/2007 1:04:06 AM

I'm pretty good at talking to people unless I want to have sex with them

10/1/2007 1:04:18 AM

your username implies otherwise.

10/1/2007 1:05:07 AM

Sometimes you get lucky and find one who thinks awkwardness is cute vv

10/1/2007 1:06:36 AM

^^^^ amazingly, oh man this is gonna so blow your mind . . . some people, aren't like you.

I know people, my brother for instance, whose self-worth is defined by his ability to attract and retain friends. Does this mean he's a shallow, vapid waste of carbon based molecules? No. But it does mean that he gets extremely depressed when he's alone.

So, while I'm sure you feel extremely special, it is not in the greater interest of society to base all psychological analysis on a StillFuchsia centric spectrum and your anecdotal tidbits, while utterly fascinating to you, don't really change the definitions of extroversion and introversion.

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:11 AM. Reason : im going to bed, peace out]

10/1/2007 1:07:17 AM

Also I am going to confess that when I'm up this late already sometimes I will stay up til 3 just to see the daily update on the Smash Bros. Brawl website

10/1/2007 1:10:47 AM

^^

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"They can be related, but they don't have to be."

You need to work on this "reading" thing.

I'm not basing this on ME, I was largely basing this on ActionPants, actually. The two things don't have to be linked, regardless. I'm not trying to change the definitions of either of the terms, but they DO NOT fundamentally mean your self-esteem is one way or the other. I didn't say extroverts were a waste of carbon: I'm an extrovert for fuck's sake. I don't know where you're pulling these ideas about what I said out of your ass, but fuck off.

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:11 AM. Reason : /]

10/1/2007 1:11:13 AM

UH OH LOOKS LIKE I BEEN CALLED OUT

10/1/2007 1:12:39 AM

i'm gonna confess that i hate how my friend stays up till 4am when he works at 8am to talk to this 30 year old woman loser he met on WoW...and how he figured he'd rather talk to her and other imaginary people than hang out when i came to visit

10/1/2007 1:15:19 AM

a) there's a bit of a difference between extraversion in the colloquial sense, and extraversion in the psychological sense

b) there are two derivatives of self-esteem: self-respect and respect from others

it only makes sense that because extraverts are more outwardly directed, that they would typically place a greater emphasis on respect from others, but it is not necessary merely because someone is extraverted.

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:17 AM. Reason : &]

10/1/2007 1:16:39 AM

I don't know why he got so pissy. I agree that most people are somewhere between extroverts and introverts. But self-worth is a largely internalized thing based on how you perceive/believe yourself and those around you, not in a "oh, you like being around people, you must need their approval" or "oh, you don't like being around people, you must get your esteem from your own internalizations" way. Sure, there are plenty of people who'd fit in both of those categories, but they're not the only options.

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:26 AM. Reason : Let's go back to confessions and such.]

10/1/2007 1:21:37 AM

I'm a total introvert but I usually need to be around people to be happy. I'm usually uncomfortable with groups unless at least one person I already know is around, though.

If I'm by myself for too long I get pretty depressed vv

10/1/2007 1:27:40 AM

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"If I'm by myself for too long I get pretty depressed"

this is archetypal of extraversion

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"I'm usually uncomfortable with groups unless at least one person I already know is around"

this is shyness

10/1/2007 1:31:27 AM

I'm gonna eat like 90 Zoloft and drink a 40 of Steel Reserve

10/1/2007 1:37:47 AM

I dig shy men. And way too much for my own good.

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:39 AM. Reason : ^ hahaha, you don't have any Zoloft]

10/1/2007 1:38:50 AM

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"I dig shy men. And way too much for my own good."

wtf does that mean? or do i want to know--

10/1/2007 1:40:48 AM

It's still a confessions thread, silly.

And I do like shy men... which doesn't usually work out for me. Mostly because they don't talk to me.

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:43 AM. Reason : ]

10/1/2007 1:42:48 AM

well, if you wanna talk it about lemme know--since apparently i'm the resident goddamn psychologist now

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:46 AM. Reason : &]

10/1/2007 1:44:38 AM

^^You don't talk to them either

Hey Fykal can you prescribe me some Zoloft

10/1/2007 1:45:57 AM

that just means you have to talk to them first

i'm trying to figure if i'm shy or if i just don't like talking to people i don't know

10/1/2007 1:46:25 AM

^^you need a psychiatrist for that

^the latter is a subset of the former

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:49 AM. Reason : &]

10/1/2007 1:46:37 AM

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"You don't talk to them either"

True. But I'm only shy when I think somebody's cute and all. Which is stupid. 'Cause it's ridiculously easy to talk to people (whom I know or don't know) otherwise.

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"that just means you have to talk to them first"

Yeah. That can be a problem.

10/1/2007 1:50:19 AM

yea i know

well its more like i don't feel like putting forth the effort to make small talk with the random chump i sit next to in class; i tend to be individualistic in what i do

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:52 AM. Reason : .]

10/1/2007 1:51:07 AM

I'm shy.

10/1/2007 1:51:14 AM

Damn I thought it was the other way around

Anyway it isn't hard to talk to people just watch VH1's "The Pick-Up Artist"! Pretty much all you have to do is drop some negs, go to multiple threading, escalate kino, number close, and roll off! Bingo bango!

10/1/2007 1:51:58 AM

I don't watch TV.

10/1/2007 1:54:18 AM

i assume that's along the lines of making fun of the girl at the bar and getting a rise out of her?

10/1/2007 1:54:44 AM

Yeah I think it's something like that, I only saw one episode and they didn't really explain it

10/1/2007 1:55:58 AM

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"I'm shy."

Are you trying to tell me somethin, baby?

10/1/2007 1:57:45 AM

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"well its more like i don't feel like putting forth the effort to make small talk with the random chump i sit next to in class; i tend to be individualistic in what i do"

there's nothing wrong with that unless you take it to an extreme--which is basically schizoid personality disorder

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 1:59 AM. Reason : ^well damn, if it's like that, i'm really shy ]

10/1/2007 1:58:06 AM

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 2:02 AM. Reason : OMG TOO SHY]

10/1/2007 2:00:38 AM

hahahahaha

Though it'd totally be hilarious if a dude came up to me and announced that he was shy as a form of pick-up line or ice-breaker.

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 2:04 AM. Reason : gg]

10/1/2007 2:03:00 AM

It would be the most ironic pick-up line in recent memory

I want to use the line "You have the ass of a great artist" sometime

10/1/2007 2:11:28 AM

I don't dream that often anymore

but the one I had last night completely ruined my morning

funny how that shit happens at inappropriate times

10/1/2007 2:14:44 AM

pray tell

10/1/2007 2:16:27 AM

6^ that's some...interesting stuff...

10/1/2007 2:18:07 AM

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"It would be the most ironic pick-up line in recent memory"

well I do enjoy a good irony

10/1/2007 2:19:00 AM

10/1/2007 2:22:33 AM

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"If you expect bad things to happen, they will if you expect good things to happen, they will "

Sounds like someone read The Secret

10/1/2007 8:45:38 AM

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"Anyway it isn't hard to talk to people just watch VH1's "The Pick-Up Artist"! Pretty much all you have to do is drop some negs, go to multiple threading, escalate kino, number close, and roll off! Bingo bango!"

aaahahaha.

10/1/2007 9:48:52 AM

^ ahaha that show is the hilarious

I had a dream of a B- level made for tv movie.... it was very odd....

basically these semi invisible monster things (look like monkey/lizards big scales and tails and scurry around on all 4's) terrorize a group of people in this mostly clear research/office building on what seemed like an island, boobs and brutally predictable death ensued

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 9:53 AM. Reason : s]

10/1/2007 9:50:17 AM

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""Anyway it isn't hard to talk to people just watch VH1's "The Pick-Up Artist"! Pretty much all you have to do is drop some negs, go to multiple threading, escalate kino, number close, and roll off! Bingo bango!""

10/1/2007 9:51:29 AM

I've never read The Secret.

10/1/2007 9:53:28 AM

I was just teasing.

10/1/2007 9:57:10 AM

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"Who walks up to complete strangers and just starts talking to them? That'd be like me walking up to you and being like "so how's the weather?" Do people really give a fuck about what some random Joe Q Stranger has to say? You can't just walk up to somebody and start talking to them, that requires that you both at least know each other or trust each other or something. I'm willing to bet that most people would tell that stranger to piss off, or at least feel uncomfortable having somebody they've never met before acting like they're buddy-buddy enough to be chatting. It's a complete mystery to me how people can even meet other people, let alone get to know them. Perhaps that's an indicator of how long I've lived in isolation from others, but I just don't see it happening, whether it's some cute girl or some random asshole who I doubt I'll ever bump into agai"

You don't "walk up". You take the opportunities that present themselves. Most of the time. I'm in a class this semester where groupwork is 50% of the grade Before groups were assigned, I leaned over to the chick next to me, who I'd never seen before in my life, and made a snide comment about something in the lecture.

...Now we get along great, and the prof authorized a group of two when he had been insisting on groups of four. Even if we revert to just being friendly after this, and not 'friends' - we didn't need anything personal in common.

A lot of it is entirely situational. If you're not going out in public and interacting with people (say, riding the wolfline, going and getting coffee at Global Village, going to class, grocery shopping, taking your dog to the park...), then no, opportunities will never be there, and you would have to walk up to someone, and be totally random and have them going WTF.

I mean, shit, while this granny at the register at petsmart was paying with fucking coins for a $20+ purchase, the woman behind me and I talked about dogs, because she had an ADORABLE cocker, and saying 'oh my god your dog is adorable' was all that was needed. She was kinda odd, though - in the crazy cat lady way. On my way out, this guy was walking in with a snake around his neck, and I asked if I could pet her, and we chatted, and he told me how the snake come to be his (a rescue).




Probably, you're making yourself seem aloof and inaccessible without even realizing it. Without that, more strangers would probably engage you in casual conversation.

10/1/2007 10:18:31 AM

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"Why should I give a shit about their day, and why should they give a shit about mine?""

Hell, don't waste your time talking to someone if it's valueless to you. Time's too precious to waste on shit you don't really want to do.

Also...

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"I masturbate a lot."

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"I have a bad habit of refusing to pull over to pee when on long road trips."

10/1/2007 10:38:50 AM

I'm a "road geek."

10/1/2007 10:43:46 AM

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"Sometimes you get lucky and find one who thinks awkwardness is cute vv"

Yessir although there is a fine line when you have to man up or lose them I found out.

10/1/2007 11:15:12 AM

OK, I've got a confession, to get this thread back on track: Even though she swears that I'm far and above her best lay ever, it will always bother me that my fiancee has had sex with some 25 people (her estimate) in the last 12 years. When you subtract her previous 6-year relationship (which she stayed in because she had given up on finding a really good guy), that's an average of 4 people a year. It will also always bother me that Christmas is the anniversary of her first time at age 15. I don't know whether that fact crosses her mind every Christmas, but a girl doesn't just forget a thing like that. It's my own fault for knowing all this because I asked about her past. Attention, guys: don't ever ask about your girlfriend's sexual history, you're better off not knowing.

10/1/2007 2:47:38 PM

Attention, guys: don't ever ask about your girlfriend's sexual history, you're better off not knowing.

[Edited on October 1, 2007 at 2:50 PM. Reason : but honestly, dating a virgin would be worse. As long as your girl is clean, then drop it.]

10/1/2007 2:49:09 PM