you guys are silly

3/15/2010 5:58:56 PM

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"Smaller than a sheet of paper. Sleep on that and get back to me, k?"

lol? its about 7.5x9.5 and certainly much thicker than a sheet of paper.

Again...

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"device physical size. Sleep on that and then get back to us, k?"

3/15/2010 6:12:46 PM

VERY GOOD! You know what's EVEN THICKER? My DSLR! Unfortunately, I didn't realize that that's a bad thing. I will get rid of it immediately. Shit man, I have lenses that are longer, thicker, & heavier than a tablet. Just because this thing is not your normal camera size doesn't mean that it's difficult to use. I'm sorry that you apparently don't have opposable thumbs but most people would have no problem holding a small notebook up and pressing a small square on it. It's just one of those weird evolution things.

Look, I didn't design the damn thing and I didn't put the rotating camera on it. If you have that big a problem with it being on there, take it up with the designer. In the meantime, I'm going to realize that while you don't find much use for it, I do and a lot of other people would too. Ok pumpkin? Good. You have a good night now.

3/15/2010 7:54:48 PM

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[Edited on March 15, 2010 at 8:28 PM. Reason : *crickets*]

3/15/2010 8:28:00 PM

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"you stupid son of a bitch, they're BIGGER than the ipad and their SOLE purpose is to BE a camera...don't think you that if it were as simple as you make it, they'd make the cameras 13.4mm (or less), too?"

You stupid son of a bitch, they aren't anywhere near the size of an iPad. They are 2mm THICKER because they have to fit a screen, battery, storage and electronics BEHIND the sensor. The iPad doesn't have to deal with those same chassis constraints for a camera.

You obviously aren't intelligent enough to get that OTHER THINGS exist in a chassis besides a sensor. And that different form factors have different sets of those things.

If needed, i can draw a picture with crayons for you to explain it. Have you ever actually SEEN a CCD? Have you ever seen the internals of a camera?

3/17/2010 1:52:21 PM

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"They are 2mm THICKER"

and yet, amazingly, the form factor of a camera lends itself to take pictures much better than the form factor of a tablet...crazy, isn't it?

3/17/2010 1:56:23 PM

what the fuck pedantic shit are you talking about? Who said anything about the iPad taking better pictures than a camera.

the point here that you are backpedaling from like a digital Usain Bolt, is whether a device like the iPad (or a cell phone) COULD have a camera-quality CCD in it, and could then take camera-quality photos and video.

and the answer is that YES, they can. The reason they don't is not a technical limitation, but a market one. The cost for putting that kind of hardware in a device like this is not a consumer demand, and would have no appreciable impact on device sales, so they don't do it.

so stop spewing your misinformed retarded bullshit and pick another battle.

3/17/2010 5:37:39 PM

^ please...make a list of how i've been backpedaling...my point is that it's not realistic to put one in there...for engineering reasons AS WELL AS marketing ones (i've mentioned both)

but really, Noen, keep trying...we all know how you know everything about everything...i, for one, am surprised i learn to shit by myself without you there to explain how

3/17/2010 5:44:02 PM

This was your original point:

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"they don't put "real" camera sensors in these things because they're comparatively huge...MY point (which you've refused to understand, likely because you don't actually know what the fuck you're talking about) is that this not only doesn't have a sensor large enough to cram 8mp on, it doesn't even have a QUALITY sensor because there's quite likely not enough space...and if there IS enough space, it's hardly cost effective because it's only you and four other people on the planet that give's a rat's ass about taking quality 8mp pictures with a damn tablet..."

The first part of which is what I am responding to. You're wrong on pretty much every account in your technical assessment. The second part I completely agree with , but somehow you lost that in the sequence of babbling posts you made after that one.

[Edited on March 17, 2010 at 7:58 PM. Reason : .]

3/17/2010 7:58:07 PM

bump

3/29/2010 4:32:15 PM

So who has pre-ordered one?

3/30/2010 3:40:11 PM

Are you supposed to receive yours on the 3rd? I wouldn't mind seeing it, but I don't feel like jumping over a hundred people @the Apple store...

3/30/2010 5:35:21 PM

ordered one for my pad, picking it up Sat, fucking around with it for a week, setting it up for him etc. Then taking it to him next weekend.

Such a good son.

3/30/2010 7:21:41 PM

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"Are you supposed to receive yours on the 3rd? I wouldn't mind seeing it, but I don't feel like jumping over a hundred people @the Apple store..."

Is this your way of saying "I want to hang out!"

3/30/2010 7:55:10 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/seton-hill-university-hands-out-ipads-to-students/

3/30/2010 10:25:12 PM

I was wondering what those 50,000 pre-orders were for, b/c I know no one ordered them, lol.

3/31/2010 1:10:09 AM

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"120,000 units on first day. 70,000 units (6 days at 12,000 units/day) over the first week, excluding Day 1. 50,000 units (7 days at 7,000 units/day) over second week."

3/31/2010 1:50:51 AM

got this in my mailbox yesterday



http://www.newsweek.com/id/235565

3/31/2010 9:08:46 AM

I never really thought much into e-books for myself but after watching the iBooks guided tour I might actually use that.

I don't know what other e-book readers do in terms of functionality but i thought it was pretty neat that you can look up words in the dictionary without ever leaving the page just by highlighting them.

Search for any word throughout the entire book

Also a new feature that didn't exist in the iphone/ipod touch, you can adjust brightness inside the iBooks app without ever leaving the page. Not sure what other apps let you do this though.

3/31/2010 10:41:54 AM

will not buy












yet

3/31/2010 10:49:31 AM

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"I don't know what other e-book readers do in terms of functionality but i thought it was pretty neat that you can look up words in the dictionary without ever leaving the page just by highlighting them. Search for any word throughout the entire book Also a new feature that didn't exist in the iphone/ipod touch, you can adjust brightness inside the iBooks app without ever leaving the page. Not sure what other apps let you do this though."

Stanza does all of those things. Touch and hold any word to pull it up in the dictionary. You can search for a word in any book in your library, not just the one you're reading, and dragging up and down the page adjusts the brightness.

3/31/2010 2:16:04 PM

I still don't see how you can type on this thing without it sitting in your lap. Are you really going to lay it down flat to type (then the screen angle will be off), can you really type on this thing standing up holding it with one hand? It's just a giant phone interface. I think the one thing that could make this better is an app like Swype for the iPad

3/31/2010 2:27:00 PM

the demo of Numbers on the ipad has me really pumped for one of these

will probably wait until june or july though after they work out all the kinks

3/31/2010 2:37:01 PM

^^not sure how much this will help but the iPad apple case lets it sit up at an incline on your lap or table top.

3/31/2010 2:52:07 PM

i predict that both the iPad and iPhone will get a rear and front facing camera, with the front facing camera being embedded behind the LCD panel.

3/31/2010 8:06:02 PM

that prediction has been made for like 3 years now

3/31/2010 8:36:16 PM

half the features. double the price. 8 times the marketing

3/31/2010 8:37:04 PM

In the other thread, someone was commenting on the need for the iPad to have a OneNote-like app... well, this seems like a good place to start... http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/28/first-look-sketchnotes-for-ipad/

3/31/2010 8:44:14 PM

i don't see anything that impressive in that video.

3/31/2010 8:46:58 PM

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"a good place to start"

i didn't say that it was the end-all, be-all, did i?

3/31/2010 8:52:37 PM

i didnt say you did

3/31/2010 8:55:48 PM

i think they're on the right track, though. it needs a tremendous amount of polish, but that's the sort of thing i'd like to use... let me type most of my content, and graphically annotate only when i need to. but i'd like to see embeddable items from elsewhere... make it a living document.

come to think of it, if done properly, Google Wave could be the killer app for the iPad.

3/31/2010 8:59:59 PM

lol, google wave? is that still around?

3/31/2010 9:04:58 PM

yeah... but i was just thinking, the idea of using a small, portable device like an iPad for collaboration during a meeting could be pretty useful.

3/31/2010 9:06:55 PM

Oh I agree...i was just laughing at the name brand that is Google Wave.

3/31/2010 9:09:39 PM

Except google wave isn't an App, it's a platform. And it's still completely unusable for anything real.

3/31/2010 9:10:56 PM

^ Semantics aren't the point, Tyler.

3/31/2010 9:12:25 PM

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"GOD DAMMIT TYLER"

3/31/2010 9:30:28 PM

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"half the features. double the price. 8 times the marketing "

looks like youre a capitalist-hating communist (and also reality-hating).

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"that prediction has been made for like 3 years now "

yeah, just like the rumor about the iPod and FM radio, which also eventually happened.

Apple has never been a company to lump a feature on in a me-too fashion. They could have stuck a camera on the front for a while now, but it would have been very in-elegant in a variety of ways.

Considering their recent patent on behind-the-screen cameras, and that good quality cameras are getting small enough, we are approaching a time when the technology can be integrated in an "elegant" apple-like fashion.

It may take for them to switch to OLED screens first though, which i don't see happening sooner than a year.

Also, Pogue's 2-part review is up: one for "techies" and "normal" people...

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" Review for Techies The Apple iPad is basically a gigantic iPod Touch. ... Review for Everyone Else The Apple iPad is basically a gigantic iPod Touch. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/technology/personaltech/01pogue.html

[Edited on March 31, 2010 at 9:51 PM. Reason : ]

3/31/2010 9:51:11 PM

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"Apple has never been a company to lump a feature on in a me-too fashion. They could have stuck a camera on the front for a while now, but it would have been very in-elegant in a variety of ways. Considering their recent patent on behind-the-screen cameras, and that good quality cameras are getting small enough, we are approaching a time when the technology can be integrated in an "elegant" apple-like fashion. "

Yeah, I imagine it really pisses off Steve Jobs that when you video chat with someone, even with a camera mounted right at the top of the screen, it still doesn't look like you have eye contact with someone. A behind screen camera, even expensive and lower quality than current above screen cameras would be, IMO, more apple's style.

3/31/2010 10:23:39 PM

can someone elaborate on the 'behind the screen camera'. I've heard nothing about this before and don't know of any products that currently use it. sounds really cool though.

3/31/2010 10:45:31 PM

^ no other company is doing it, AFAIK.

Few companies really push forward with industrial design like apple... it's why the iPod and iPhone have come to dominate.

3/31/2010 10:49:25 PM

Looks like Uncle Walt thinks the iPad is a winner... http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/31/uncle-walt-delivers-his-verdict-on-ipad/

3/31/2010 10:49:34 PM

^^^
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/01/apple-patent-application-shows-isight-behind-notebook-screen.ars
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/01/08/apple_files_patent_for_camera_hidden_behind_display.html

3/31/2010 10:51:00 PM

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"That Scrabble app shows the whole board without your zooming or panning: a free companion app for your iPhone or Touch is called Tile Rack; it lets you fiddle with your letters in private, then flick them wirelessly onto the iPad’s screen"

not going to lie, that sounds pretty cool.

3/31/2010 10:53:18 PM

so is this netflix ipad app an april fools joke?



if that's true, I'd definitely buy one of these given the exellent battery life Mossberg reported on

4/1/2010 11:17:41 AM

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""That Scrabble app shows the whole board without your zooming or panning: a free companion app for your iPhone or Touch is called Tile Rack; it lets you fiddle with your letters in private, then flick them wirelessly onto the iPad’s screen" not going to lie, that sounds pretty cool. "

This should go into the overuse of technology category. If, to play scrabble, each of you need an iphone, with the scrabble app, and the ipad, as the board, I suggest you probably should use a REAL SCRABBLE BOARD.

4/1/2010 11:36:45 AM

^^http://www.tuaw.com/2010/04/01/official-netflix-app-will-stream-to-ipad

It seems probable and from the features he's describing definitely possible. Lets hope its for real.

[Edited on April 1, 2010 at 11:43 AM. Reason : .]

4/1/2010 11:41:16 AM

First!!!!!1

http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/01/ipad-line/

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" - Why do you want it so badly? -- Because it's like a mini laptop, I mean you just, you know, click it on like you click the iPhone on and you don't have to open it up and go through--you know go through everything "

Wow.

4/1/2010 1:36:51 PM

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"The Line For the iPad Starts Behind This Guy"

I stopped reading after the heading. Clearly anyone dumb enough to wait in line has nothing interesting to say. Maybe I'm missing something but what good reason is there to wait in line when you can pre-order it and have it shipped to you on the same day?

4/1/2010 3:55:45 PM