A girl meeting a guy and getting to know him, being horny and fucking him the same night because she is attracted to him

vs.

a chick going out and fucking the first guy with $20, regardless of any sort of sexual attraction. and furthermore, repeating this act several times a night.


you don't see a difference?

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:34 PM. Reason : a]

11/17/2009 2:33:42 PM

^ the callgirl is more likely to use a condom, thus less likely to have the clap

11/17/2009 2:34:59 PM

Yeah there's a difference, but it's not my business nor my position to judge her

Preferences are preferences, I suppose, but I don't form preferences over things that don't affect me

11/17/2009 2:35:13 PM

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"a chick going out and fucking the first guy with $20, regardless of any sort of sexual attraction "

your #2 scenario is way off base. You sound like you're describing a crackhead, not an educated, sensible "call girl".

PS: safe sex assumed, I'd opt for the one who has the sense to get more than an orgasm out of the deal

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM. Reason : sd]

11/17/2009 2:35:31 PM

I mean, I guess if you fall in love you fall in love, and you can overlook just about anything in your mate's past

I would just have a hard time with the sexual part of the relationship, knowing that she fucked dudes for money rather than at least drunken attraction.

11/17/2009 2:36:17 PM

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"i dont know what planet you come from but i know this is not the good 'ol days but still the thought of your girlfriend having had many sex partners, let alone random stragers, is a problem for most men"

i don't have a problem with a gf having many previous partners

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"I know you say 'just the way my mind works', but I'm gonna ask again: why? What's the rationale for that ranking?"

i'm not sure where he was going, but i can see it maybe being a problem. you want sex to be meaningful and passionate, knowing that your girl can separate that from the mechanics at sex could start to gnaw at things in your mind. i don't know if i'm explaining myself very well, but i can see how it could be an issue.

11/17/2009 2:37:14 PM

to me, that's a better reason than 'oh, hi. You're here, and I want sex - you're good enough. let's get it on.'

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"you want sex to be meaningful and passionate, knowing that your girl can separate that from the mechanics at sex could start to gnaw at things in your mind. "

That's a better explanation than dje gave, so I'll settle.

And newsflash: many, many, many people of both genders are capable of disassociating matters like that.



[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:38 PM. Reason : serd]

11/17/2009 2:37:18 PM

There's a big difference between making over $1,000 an hour as Eliot Spitzer's high class ho and making $20 that you're going to blow on meth.

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:37 PM. Reason : .]

11/17/2009 2:37:36 PM

Pretty sure you should be able to tell the difference between meaningless sex and meaningful sex if you're with somebody

11/17/2009 2:38:15 PM

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"to me, that's a better reason than 'oh, hi. You're here, and I want sex - you're good enough. let's get it on.'"

so you approve of fucking strangers for money vs. fucking strangers based on actual sexual attraction?

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:38 PM. Reason : a]

11/17/2009 2:38:24 PM

^^That, too.

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"so you approve of fucking strangers for money vs. fucking strangers based on actual sexual attraction? "

Why can't scenario #1 also have attraction?

11/17/2009 2:38:58 PM

I assume it doesn't more than it does

11/17/2009 2:39:47 PM

i think that maybe it would be difficult to date a practicing (dunno if that is the right word haha) call girl
but i mean, if you fall in love and she can separate work from play then whatevs

but if it is in her past i really don't get the big deal. i was kind of slutty in college and didn't even get paid for it(damn) but it hasn't affected any of my relationships. and none of my relationships have been affected by the other person's past partners. though granted i've never dated a prostitute.

but i guess that yea, i don't really see the difference between someone who isn't a call girl having a lot of partners in the past (why is this better?) v. a call girl. and i kind of agree with lucy...i think the call girl would be cleaner, if that is what we're concerned with.

11/17/2009 2:40:06 PM

Basic dating/courtship is just another form of prostitution.

Man spends a lot of money, hoping to get laid. Girl gets showered with gifts, dates, dinners and eventually goes for a roll in the hay. Why not just cut the bullshit? A lot of dates are just glorified forms of prostitution.

11/17/2009 2:40:39 PM

^ it doesn't have to be that way. It's gold-digging broads and weak men that perpetuate that myth.

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:41 PM. Reason : a]

11/17/2009 2:41:08 PM

^ No, it doesn't, and it shouldn't, but I know some people who treat dating as such.

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"It's gold-digging broads and weak men that perpetuate that myth."

Agreed.

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:42 PM. Reason : ]

11/17/2009 2:41:48 PM

^^^ I will try not to read into that further.

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:42 PM. Reason : -]

11/17/2009 2:42:07 PM

^^so you would oppose a man taking you out and showering you with gifts?

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:42 PM. Reason : a]

11/17/2009 2:42:25 PM

^ It makes me uncomfortable. I generally go dutch on every date.

^^

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:44 PM. Reason : ]

11/17/2009 2:43:49 PM

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"^^so you would oppose a man taking you out and showering you with gifts? "

this would kinda freak me out, personally

11/17/2009 2:44:00 PM

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"Basic dating/courtship is just another form of prostitution. Man spends a lot of money, hoping to get laid. Girl gets showered with gifts, dates, dinners and eventually goes for a roll in the hay. Why not just cut the bullshit? A lot of dates are just glorified forms of prostitution."

It's not just the gold-diggers who perpetuate that. It's also the fault of the men who enable that kind of shit

11/17/2009 2:44:53 PM

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"And newsflash: many, many, many people of both genders are capable of disassociating matters like that. "

of course, i would say probably most. most emotions are not rational

11/17/2009 2:45:35 PM

^3 me too

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:46 PM. Reason : .]

11/17/2009 2:45:56 PM

i enjoy paying for things at the start of a relationship, i don't think thats because i'm weak

11/17/2009 2:47:37 PM

Scenario: Attractive, hard-working guy takes you on a date to Wendy's because that is all he can afford. The next night, a less attractive guy with a trust fund takes you to Nobu and buys you a diamond necklace. Both ask you for a second date on the same night, which do you choose?

I can tell you what 80% of women would choose, and the other 20% are probably lying.

11/17/2009 2:48:52 PM

no - it doesn't mean you are weak! i think that is pretty normal.

i prefer to take turns paying for things or just go dutch. usually we just split everything now or if he paid last time i'll pay this time. i like it that way. but that is just me

11/17/2009 2:49:11 PM

there's a difference between paying for a date and showeringgggggg a girl with gifts and trips and fancy dates, etc.

shit, my bf pays for pretty much every time we go out to eat and all that, and I don't think it makes him weak.

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"Scenario: Attractive, hard-working guy takes you on a date to Wendy's because that is all he can afford. The next night, a less attractive guy with a trust fund takes you to Nobu and buys you a diamond necklace. Both ask you for a second date on the same night, which do you choose? I can tell you what 80% of women would choose, and the other 20% are probably lying."

A) I have no idea what Nobu is
B) I would choose Wendy's dude (honestly)

I would rather be happy and poor as hell than miserable with nice things

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:50 PM. Reason : .]

11/17/2009 2:49:38 PM

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"i enjoy paying for things at the start of a relationship, i don't think thats because i'm weak"

there's a difference between paying for a few things at the start of the relationship (showing some old-fashioned courting, and gentlemanly behavior) and doing it ...forever.

There's also a difference between paying for a cup of coffee and/or dinner in a cafe/sports bar type of place, and going all out with fine dining and wine and shit.

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"Scenario: Attractive, hard-working guy takes you on a date to Wendy's because that is all he can afford. The next night, a less attractive guy with a trust fund takes you to Nobu and buys you a diamond necklace. Both ask you for a second date on the same night, which do you choose? I can tell you what 80% of women would choose, and the other 20% are probably lying."

once again, you are forgetting the element of attraction

^Glad I am not the only one who knows what Nobu is (other than the scarred dude in Memoirs of a Geisha.

Having been deeply unhappy while both poor and not-as-poor, and then crazy, over the moon happy: dje's just gonna ahve to assume I'm a lying bastard. And that's okay

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:52 PM. Reason : esfd]

11/17/2009 2:49:42 PM

i cant beleive some of y'all, y'all are just trying to act cool, hip, or cool whip
either way i doubt any of yall would do in real life what you say in this thread, but i gotta run

11/17/2009 2:51:49 PM

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"Scenario: Attractive, hard-working guy takes you on a date to Wendy's because that is all he can afford. The next night, a less attractive guy with a trust fund takes you to Nobu and buys you a diamond necklace. Both ask you for a second date on the same night, which do you choose? I can tell you what 80% of women would choose, and the other 20% are probably lying. "

i kinda like fast food more than super fancy food. and if someone bought me a diamond necklace after just meeting him i'd feel extremely weirded out. plus i don't really care for people with trust funds (a generalization, duh, but a lot of the ones i've met, i don't like)

i like honest hard working people! and if that means wendy's then whatever. i love happy meals!

11/17/2009 2:52:05 PM

Quote :

"Scenario: Attractive, hard-working guy takes you on a date to Wendy's because that is all he can afford. The next night, a less attractive guy with a trust fund takes you to Nobu and buys you a diamond necklace. Both ask you for a second date on the same night, which do you choose? I can tell you what 80% of women would choose, and the other 20% are probably lying."

First of all, I hate diamonds and the diamond industry, so that doesn't matter. I'd be highly suspicious of the second scenario man, honestly. That's just kind of creepy. I probably would reject both. But I'm extremely cynical and not very good at dating.

11/17/2009 2:52:26 PM

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"either way i doubt any of yall would do in real life what you say in this thread, but i gotta run "

The value of what you think was discredited and run into the ground eons ago.

11/17/2009 2:52:34 PM

I should have known that the 20% would be on TWW

11/17/2009 2:53:33 PM

if we can't afford it (because i'm a student and he is a recent grad) we won't exchange christmas presents. we'll just do something together (like a dinner or rent a movie or something). the same goes for birthday presents. so i'm not really driven by material gifts.

candy and snacks on the other hand...you can get me to do a lot by giving me candy

but i'm serious. poor and happy over rich and miserable.

^ you probably think i'm lying. but i'm not! but i'm also a dirty liberal hippy female so i prob don't represent a large majority of women.

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM. Reason : .]

11/17/2009 2:55:13 PM

Do all guys think all women are gold diggers? Or just most of them ...

11/17/2009 2:55:29 PM

Yes, they assume we all want the huge house on the hill, covered in jewelry, with as much designer clothes as we can handle and no job, all the while married to a man we can barely stand - only because he's got that dough.

11/17/2009 2:57:51 PM

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"Do all guys think all women are gold diggers? Or just most of them ... "

does it really matter what all guys think?

11/17/2009 2:58:26 PM

It does when I'm trying to date them. I'd kind of like to find one who doesn't think he has to buy me/I want him for his wallet.

But things like this keep nudging me toward lesbianism anyway.

11/17/2009 3:00:00 PM

scorE!

11/17/2009 3:00:12 PM

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"First of all, I hate diamonds and the diamond industry, so that doesn't matter."

11/17/2009 3:00:14 PM

11/17/2009 3:01:35 PM

i'm probably going to be the one with the bling in my relationship anyway

but i probably won't have a lot of bling even with a law degree cause i kinda just wanna go back to school and then to africa to save the world

11/17/2009 3:05:11 PM

Bring me back a chimp.

11/17/2009 3:05:35 PM

I think it's just that most men are completely bewildered as to why women find us attractive at all in the first place. So we logically think it's our money that is attractive to women, or something else that is tangible and/or useful about us, instead of the person we are. Basically, we have no clue.

11/17/2009 3:15:37 PM

^ So men expect women to simply date women? Sex is a pretty good reason for women to want to date men. Hetero sex is easier than girl on girl, IMO.

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 3:22 PM. Reason : bleh ]

11/17/2009 3:18:50 PM

yeah, but girl on girl has double the boobies

11/17/2009 3:21:04 PM

That would be logical, but we know that women have a mothering instinct and they need men to achieve offspring. However, I read recently that egg and sperm have been created from stem cells, so even that may no longer be the case. A lot of people mentioned being poor and happy is better than being rich and unhappy. How do you make your significant other happy? Most men think gifts make women happy, as they spend a lot of time and energy making themselves look appealing. Men also believe that in order to keep a woman, you have to tell her that you love her. I doubt most men mean that when they say it. When you are in love, you don't have to say it, you can feel it. It is like an aura, a presence, or a state of mind that you both feel and know well. If a man does not feel that (perhaps he never has), he defaults to what he observes women attempting to acquire, maintain, or accomplish, and he supplements that to attract them, imho.

Ok, that's enough sweeping generalizations for one day.

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 3:48 PM. Reason : -]

11/17/2009 3:46:56 PM

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"there's a difference between paying for a few things at the start of the relationship (showing some old-fashioned courting, and gentlemanly behavior) and doing it ...forever."

if my wife wants to be a homemaker i'd have no problem doing it forever

11/17/2009 3:59:04 PM

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"How do you make your significant other happy? Most men think gifts make women happy, as they spend a lot of time and energy making themselves look appealing. "

How about quality time together doing things that you both enjoy doing? Surfing, biking, hiking, cooking, etc?

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"Men also believe that in order to keep a woman, you have to tell her that you love her. I doubt most men mean that when they say it. When you are in love, you don't have to say it, you can feel it."

Agreed. The L word should be used sparingly, if at all. There's way too much pressure surrounding it and it really doesn't matter at all.

11/17/2009 4:04:25 PM

Lesbian?

11/17/2009 4:09:01 PM