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LOL!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IY8o0DgHHgk&t=60s

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"nobody here has ever claimed to be 100% certain about everything?"

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"if I wasn’t sure that I was right about something, I wouldn’t post about it. it really is as simple as that."

LOL!

10/16/2026 6:56:21 AM

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"im just a dummy off to the side that everybody hates together"

Nobody hates you here. I certainly don't. Soldier on, Florida Man!

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"Tell me I'm funny and nice and worth validation pls"

Thank you for classifying me in a "normal" group. Might be a first! I'm trying so hard to give the perception of a fully functional adult human.

10/16/2026 7:03:54 AM

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""nobody here has ever claimed to be 100% certain about everything?""

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"if I wasn’t sure that I was right about something, I wouldn’t post about it."

in tgl's defense, he's not sure about every thing. he's sure about some things.

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" Nobody hates you here. I certainly don't."

agreed.

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"See, this seems like something most people on here would agree with. But I wouldn't have seen it had I not clicked on a bunch of twitter links, which I don't necessarily come to TWW to do."

understandable. i suppose i ought to stop bothering with that practice here.

10/16/2026 7:59:03 AM

glad you were able to pick up on that

10/16/2026 8:32:21 AM

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"in tgl's defense, he's not sure about every thing. he's sure about some things."

So he's only sure about everything he posts. So only sure about 100% of the side of him that any of us gets to experience. It's exactly the same effect.

He is probably 80-90% ideologically aligned with 80-90% of the posters that remain in the Soap Box, and yet he's the only one who posts like he does, with absolutism and utter condescension if not contempt. That's just my feeling from a decade of reading his stuff, much of which I'd probably otherwise agree with, save a few issues.

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"understandable. i suppose i ought to stop bothering with that practice here."

I am purposely not on the Twitters. Is it more work to copy and paste or to restate your relevant thoughts than to link externally through hrefs? While clicking links is always voluntary, I don't particularly enjoy coming to TWW to be constantly directed away from TWW (especially to something that requires an account to view any commentary).

I'm not mad, though.

10/16/2026 8:35:27 AM

I have contempt for those who are ok with attacks on human rights

10/16/2026 8:51:38 AM

Probably no one here would disagree with that statement. The issue lies with how rights are defined and constraints are in place and who writes the definitions.

10/16/2026 8:55:10 AM

says the guy who regularly uses slurs and defends the federal governments attack on its citizens and immigrants

another thing that I have contempt for

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 9:00 AM. Reason : .]

10/16/2026 8:59:23 AM

The issue lies with how the things you have contempt for are defined

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 9:10 AM. Reason : and if you have incorrect definitions, you unjustly subject others to your contempt. this is immoral]

10/16/2026 9:09:49 AM

Who else out there is giving us SpaceX powered sports cars???

10/16/2026 9:42:33 AM

Are they giving them away?!

10/16/2026 9:47:23 AM

Slurs is a good one. We could talk about using them hatefully, as a troll to overly sensitive pearl clutching forum posters, or as a good ribbing to your gay friend that leaves you at the bar when he finds a hot guy.

I define them only as the first case and recognize the nuance in the others. You being unable to see nuance probably see them as equivalent despite intent or social graces.

Additionally, I don't think someone breaking the rule in the first case deserves to lose their job or be debanked. I just wouldn't hang out with them personally.

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 10:44 AM. Reason : A]

10/16/2026 10:42:44 AM

a good example of why I posted the Al-Ghazali video the other day. There's no distinction making with tgl. there is a consistent flattening of meaning and intent of others, a dehumanizing lack of empathy for the mind of the other, and always in the direction that permits and demands the believer to maximally condemn the other and therefore to justify their maximum punishment by the Inquisitors.

And to be less personally antagonistic about it, let me be clear that this is a phenomenon that happens on both the left (bluesky is the vipers nest for this sort of behavior so for the good of your own soul stop hanging out there) and the right. Because it is human nature. We are only human. But it is the path to Totalitarianism.

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 11:14 AM. Reason : i am the warner]

10/16/2026 11:14:23 AM

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" Mr. Musk, the world's richest person and a Texas resident who has major business interests in the state, sent $158 million in September to a super PAC that immediately flipped that much money to a group backing Mr. Paxton's Senate bid, according to campaign-finance filings released Thursday. The donations from Mr. Musk, collectively some of the biggest ever recorded in American politics, have allowed Mr. Paxton to remain financially competitive even as he is vastly outraised by his Democratic opponent, James Talarico. Republicans in Texas have grown increasingly worried about the race, one of this year's most expensive and high-profile contests, fearful of losing a statewide election in Texas for the first time in more than three decades. "

Good example of why we need to end billionaires and superpacs. Individual donors to Talarico are out raising Paxton by 3:1 but dump the musk pac money in and he can single handedly flood any media market with his intentional lies.

10/16/2026 11:33:15 AM

^^ And I get why he does that with me, as I'm typically deliberately hyperbolic, but as The Coz pointed out he does so with contempt even people he agrees with. Instead of engaging to discover differences and where the disagreement lies he hand waves away into vague statements that dismiss rather than engage and root out where the differences lie.

I care more about the full context, how it's presented and sold than not offending the in group. To TGL that means "defending". My position on ICE is generally, horrible implementation, unwinnable situation. The comparison between someone like Pretti (sp?) defending a woman and the ICE agents kicking and ultimately shooting him looks super bad, is bad. I think the Renee Good one was more nuanced legally. I can empathize with someone trying to be an ICE agent and being in that environment and I understand how when you think you are literally defending blue hairs from the gas chambers that would make you not side with them at all. I can see both points even if I think someone in ICE or Renee Good were totally incompetent. I feel sorry for both of them.

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 11:46 AM. Reason : a]

10/16/2026 11:42:49 AM

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"Slurs is a good one. We could talk about using them hatefully, as a troll to overly sensitive pearl clutching forum posters, or as a good ribbing to your gay friend that leaves you at the bar when he finds a hot guy."

I used to do the latter two when I was an edgelord college kid. As I've matured i look back and cringe bc I realize that, to anyone outside my own brain, it's very hard to differentiate between 2/3 and 1. Even for 3 I would wonder, is my friend laughing along so they wont get accused of being "overly sensitive pearl clutching" but inside it hurts, even a little. I decided the best way to avoid that is to stop using the slurs.

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 12:15 PM. Reason : Did it work]

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 12:16 PM. Reason : Now? ]

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 12:17 PM. Reason : Hmmm]

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"bluesky is the vipers nest for this sort of behavior so for the good of your own soul stop hanging out there"

Not sure I understand believing that you can avoid the Viper's nest of horrible people on Twitter but don't believe you can do the same on Blue Sky.

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 12:19 PM. Reason : E]

10/16/2026 12:12:36 PM

Now what happens when your moral rule is violated? Should the punishment be consistent for say a VP using the aforementioned word repeated vs some new college hire heard making the comment to his friend in what he thinks is a private office?

What about someone here posting in college 15 years ago, like that thread? Should he lose his job and be on the street? People love to witch hunt and even though he may have atoned, we can't resist a good witch burning. The left seemed to treat all cases equivalent. A low level worker caught doing something was burned just as hard a VP with real control/power. There was no proportionality in 2020.

Obviously the best choice is not to do it from a safety standpoint, but there are clear cases where the 3rd is ok. Like when a former TWWr bragged for the 30th time this week about his body fat percentage, I said, "Jesus you vain queen, no one cares you are 8% body fat, go suck a dick". But I've known him for 28 years and I was the first person he was out to. Would never do that to Frosh.

10/16/2026 12:36:24 PM

That is a very strange response to a post explaining my own choice for my own behavior. Where in my post did I say it was a moral rule I press on others?

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"Obviously the best choice is not to do it from a safety standpoint, but there are clear cases where the 3rd is ok."

"ok" and "worth it" seems like a wide gap. Your friend is probably completely OK with it, but short of being in their brain, you can never be sure. FOR ME, i would rather make the tiniest miniscule sacrifice of not doing it anymore to gain the piece of mind, but that's me.

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 12:51 PM. Reason : E]

10/16/2026 12:46:50 PM

I had two parts:

Slurs and what should happen to people who use them. I was asking what you think should happen, because one of the primary issues with TGL (and 2020 woke) that got everyone like me all pissy enough to vote for Trump is:

- they assume the different versions are somehow equivalent
- they apply the same punishment whether it's something vile (a vp abusing a subordinate) or a line man making minimum wage

Was just asking, what in your view if you find someone has used a slur should happen?

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 12:51 PM. Reason : a]

10/16/2026 12:49:36 PM

I had no intention to address those topics, I used the quote function to show what I was responding to


Btw, it's already pretty dumb to vote for Trump, but my lord that is a very dumb reason to vote for Trump

10/16/2026 12:55:19 PM

Society needs more pathways for repentance, forgiveness and atonement, with more emphasis on the atonement the higher up you are (literally the basis of the concept behind many world religions so nothing new just something easily forgotten )

10/16/2026 12:56:11 PM

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"Not sure I understand believing that you can avoid the Viper's nest of horrible people on Twitter but don't believe you can do the same on Blue Sky."

As I've said (link link link) twitter has its fair share of problems, both before and after Elon. There's a couple reasons imo why twitter is still a better social network than bluesky. The main being that bluesky's user base originated almost entirely as an exodus from twitter of Elon haters. As mainstream as that pov has become, the distribution of political opinions on bluesky is very clearly skewed toward fringe left/progressive. And because it's remained relatively small, you get all the self reinforcing effects of echo chambers among a group of people already prone to dysfunction. It's just like when people on the fringe right threw a tantrum about twitter and went off and made Gab so they could all jerk each other off to their awful ideas without anybody challenging them. Twitter is more resistant to those echo chamber effects because it's a much larger user base and has more "normal" people who are there to talk about sports or whatever and haven't been deranged by the culture wars. Big Politics twitter absolutely is infected with lots of garbage, but you can at least still avoid that neighborhood because there's other areas to hang out. So to speak. I suppose that's true on bluesky to some extent as well, but I think the gravitational pull of politics on bluesky is much much more than on twitter. I guess my advice boils down to, no matter what social network you use, it's probably best not to get sucked too deep into the political discourse. you will only find insanity.

[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 1:00 PM. Reason : RIP TSB]

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"Society needs more pathways for repentance, forgiveness and atonement, with more emphasis on the atonement the higher up you are (literally the basis of the concept behind many world religions so nothing new just something easily forgotten )"

well said, agreed. Grace & Forgiveness was a #YangGang core value and I always thought that was an admirable and wise policy to make explicit in a political campaign.



[Edited on October 16, 2026 at 1:22 PM. Reason : even better - resisting the urge to constantly condemn people is a healthy spiritual pathway we can offer ourselves rather than demanding repentance of others]

10/16/2026 12:59:25 PM

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"Btw, it's already pretty dumb to vote for Trump, but my lord that is a very dumb reason to vote for Trump"

We've been arguing that this style of moral condemnation alienates people and can produce political backlash even if its dumb. There are numerous instances going back years where you and The Coz both warned him of this.

10/16/2026 1:07:24 PM

I’m pretty sure I’ve never advocated for anyone to be fired over any post on social media

slurs are bad. don’t use them. it isn’t that difficult.

10/16/2026 2:37:31 PM

just now fully catching up

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" or as a good ribbing to your gay friend that leaves you at the bar when he finds a hot guy."

finding it hard to believe that this is something that you’ve done in the past. if so, what slur did you use, and why?

I’ve got a handful of gay friends, and one thing I know they aren’t fond of is a straight person using the F-word

there’s no such thing as nuance when it comes to using slurs unless you’re a chud who is grasping at straws in an attempt to use them

10/16/2026 4:42:30 PM

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"if you call people a faggot chud as an insult, you're kindof an asshole."

10/16/2026 4:50:19 PM

are people born chuds?

anyways:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/10/16/musk-approached-trump-slow-down-starlink-help-ukraine/

10/16/2026 5:00:23 PM

Are people born gay?

10/16/2026 6:04:29 PM

^^^
Yikes

10/16/2026 6:08:27 PM