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CaelNCSU
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To bring it back around, the 800,000 Iranians in LA have some bomb restaurants.

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"In previous years, for example, his school might have only received three students a month who needed to be screened for English fluency. This year, he screens at least three new students each week — a process that takes one to two hours per student."



https://www.chalkbeat.org/colorado/2024/03/20/english-language-development-teachers-role-amid-migrant-influx-denver-aurora/

At a minimum it's overwhelmed tons of school districts. Not a problem if you're not a teacher who doesn't speak Spanish or kid in one of these schools losing teacher engagement.

5/3/2026 8:56:14 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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[Edited on May 3, 2026 at 9:04 PM. Reason : nvm]

5/3/2026 9:02:11 PM

StTexan
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Trump Says U.S. Will Help Stranded Ships Leave Strait of Hormuz

Bet the ships are still scared and this is a big nothing-burger

5/3/2026 10:24:33 PM

The Coz
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Trump says a lot of things!

5/3/2026 10:55:42 PM

StTexan
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Indeed

5/3/2026 11:01:26 PM

GrumpyGOP
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" They have trained and funded terrorists for decades"


Us too.

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"They are willing to indiscriminately fire missiles into Israel and Arab countries and have killed 28 Israeli civilians and several in neighboring countries."


A whole 28 civilians? Why, that's nearly 1/5 the number of civilians we killed with a single tomahawk missile fired at a girl's school in the opening salvos of this conflict.

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"We are dealing with a state sponsor of terror that is willing to sacrifice civilian lives."


Again, same could be said for us. Sponsoring dipshits is not a uniquely Iranian pastime. As for "being willing to sacrifice civilian lives," well. LOL. LMAO.

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"Possessing a nuclear weapon would only embolden them to harm more civilians in the region and beyond."


Right, except, we haven't really seen this theory born out in any of the evidence in the 81 years since Hiroshima.

Possessing nuclear weapons does not make governments more likely to engage in offensive wars. It makes other countries less likely to engage in offensive wars against them, and makes them much less likely to escalate them.

5/3/2026 11:14:11 PM

StTexan
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Just think i should point out they put that girls school where it was on purpose imo

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"It makes other countries less likely to engage in offensive wars against them"


All the more reason they shouldn't have those weapons

5/3/2026 11:19:31 PM

rwoody
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In a place where girls go to school?

5/3/2026 11:23:01 PM

StTexan
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Don't be obtuse they put that girls school next to all the military shit on purpose

5/3/2026 11:24:00 PM

GrumpyGOP
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Ah, does the United States not put schools on or near military bases?

5/3/2026 11:26:24 PM

StTexan
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Ok fair, but kinda apples and oranges

I guess I'd ask what bbehe asked. What is yalls end game? Like 47 years of this bs. Did you just hope that at some point the people would rise up and change things? Or do you think we should have just let them keep existing as is?

All I hear is the war is bad, but I never feel like there is an honest alternative

5/3/2026 11:30:52 PM

Cabbage
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"Ok fair, but kinda apples and oranges"


How so?

5/3/2026 11:57:58 PM

StTexan
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Fine I take back the "kinda apples and oranges" thing for the sake of argument. Lets discuss yalls end game. In one corner we have bomb the hell out of them. In the other we have status quo. Neither is acceptable.

5/4/2026 12:02:24 AM

Cabbage
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How about we negotiate a deal like Obama had, before Trump fucked it up?

But I can't say that I am skilled enough to fix what Trump fucks up. I don't know who is. But going forward, I think number one priority is we get Trump out of a position to fuck things up further. That needs to be done before an end game can even be considered at this point.

5/4/2026 2:03:28 AM

The Coz
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"Right, except, we haven't really seen this theory born out in any of the evidence in the 81 years since Hiroshima."

Since Nagasaki, TBH.

5/4/2026 6:26:31 AM

heelfan
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thegoodlife3, let's look at how poorly the approximately 90,000 Somalis in Minnesota are integrating into American society.

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"Economic Disparities and Welfare Dependency

High Welfare Utilization: Studies, including data discussed in 2025, suggest that a significant portion of Somali households in Minnesota use public assistance programs, such as food stamps and Medicaid, at higher rates than native-born households.

Low Income and Poverty: Reports have indicated that a large percentage of the Somali community remains at the lower end of the socioeconomic ladder, with high poverty rates and lower median household incomes compared to other groups in Minnesota.

Widespread Fraud Allegations: In 2024 and 2025, federal authorities and media reports focused on massive fraud schemes related to federal pandemic food aid and other programs, with many suspects being members of the Somali community.

Cultural and Social Separation

Limited English Proficiency: Many Somali immigrants, particularly older adults and women, face significant challenges learning English, which limits their interaction with the broader community and participation in the traditional labor market.Residential Segregation: In some areas, such as Willmar, Minnesota, the Somali population is heavily concentrated in specific downtown housing, leading to a division between them and long-term residents.

Cultural Differences and Conflict: Daily practices, such as prayer rituals during work hours and clothing choices (hijabs), have sometimes created tension in the workplace or public spaces.

Line-Cutting and Social Customs: Reports from areas like Faribault have noted that different cultural norms, such as waiting in line, caused friction between Somali newcomers and long-time residents.Challenges in Education and EmploymentEducational Attainment: Studies have highlighted lower rates of high school and higher education completion, which contributes to difficulties in finding jobs that pay a living wage.

Professional Underemployment: Many highly skilled professionals, including doctors and teachers from Somalia, are working in minimum-wage, low-skilled jobs due to difficulties in translating their credentials and licensing.Isolated Community Structures

Sub-community Focus: Many Somali-owned businesses, such as those in Minneapolis shopping centers, primarily serve their own community, which limits their overall economic integration and commercial interaction with the wider Minnesota population."

5/4/2026 7:23:13 AM

bbehe
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"I guess I'd ask what bbehe asked. What is yalls end game? Like 47 years of this bs. Did you just hope that at some point the people would rise up and change things? Or do you think we should have just let them keep existing as is?

All I hear is the war is bad, but I never feel like there is an honest alternative"


Return to something like the JCPOA using economic sanctions to help achieve that. Help support the reformist groups using covert methods as a possibility.

You seem to think everyone who says we're going about this in a truly awful manner supports the Iranian regime, or at minimum, is fine with them existing. In reality, you can think the regime is bad, but have a solid understanding of how wars in the middle east tend to go, to recognize that going in without a 'next day' plan or overall end game was a massive mistake and was only going to make things worse.

Unfortunately this is simply how the world works, you can't snap your fingers and get the regime change you want. You certainly can't get a regime change solely by air superiority. So right now we've only made things worse for every single one of our ultimate objectives and the only two likely scenarios is we give Iran a much better deal than the JCPOA was or we commit to a ground invasion.

Hooray.

5/4/2026 7:31:34 AM

heelfan
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GrumpyGOP, this is not a conversation about how ethical the US government has behaved in the past. This is a conversation about the threat of Iran to the American people. Iran is currently the leading state sponsor of terrorism, including terrorist groups that attack American citizens and citizens of allies. Iran's government is led by clerics and the government is perceived as more radical than Pakistan. Iran is also exceptional in its violent rhetoric directed at the US and Israel. Just because other rational actors have not been emboldened to attack other countries by possessing a nuclear weapons, it doesn't guarantee that Iran will behave the same way.

Let's say I have three boys, two of whom act responsibly and never fight with or harm other children but I have another boy who has a bad temper, constantly makes threats, and pays bullies and mentally ill children to stab other classmates and teachers with scissors he provides. I feel okay with letting the two normal boys carry knives or even guns when they get older. But I would never let the violent, rash child carry a knife or gun because he has a much higher chance of using it to cause harm. In the same way, we should never let Iran obtain nuclear weapons because they have a much higher risk of using them to cause harm than other countries that already possess nuclear weapons.

5/4/2026 7:51:58 AM

rwoody
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Hf doesn't think kids that get into fights should be able to own guns as adults, noted

5/4/2026 9:02:07 AM

heelfan
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In my analogy, the bad apple paid other students to stab teachers and classmates with scissors. A little worse than punching another kid during a heated argument, don’t you think?

5/4/2026 9:30:25 AM

heelfan
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And I realize it’s an imperfect analogy. The dad would have to keep the weapons in a safe and only allow the well behaved sons to have access to them and only give them to the good sons when they aren’t with the violent son, etc.

5/4/2026 9:38:02 AM

Bullet
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That analogy really opened my mind. Now I understand why we need to kill everyone in Iran (and everyone in any non-christian country that isn't friendly to the US)

[Edited on May 4, 2026 at 10:01 AM. Reason : ]

5/4/2026 10:00:41 AM

heelfan
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@clawai do you think Bullet is being sarcastic?

5/4/2026 10:27:53 AM

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