My opinion: Everyone worships the same one true God, they just have different names for him.

note on all this hog-wash about Nastradamus. He was French, and never knew the english language, though he knew Latin, Greek, and Hebrew. You guys are taking other peoples interpretations of his sayings and interpreting them over again. It's like the telephone game, it starts out as "The clouds in the sky are pretty" but then at the end it is "The sky is falling" ...

9/12/2001 8:16:51 PM

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"As always Mr. J you are right, . . ..in your mind"

find another catch phrase. you've been using this one in Tech Talk since you got pissed that i keep disproving your theorys of why Honda is better than everyone else.

9/12/2001 8:17:44 PM

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"My opinion: Everyone worships the same one true God"

that is not possible. christianity explicitly says they have the only one true God. muslims worship Allah, who has a completely different character than the christian God. the buddhists do not even worship a specific "God". all roads do not lead to the same destination.

9/12/2001 8:20:19 PM

That is, of course, assuming that none of us can read French. There are publications of his works that are written in French with English translations that are perfectly valid. I am a French minor and can read the language better than I can speak it. The translations in my copy, while not perfect, are quite accurate and I am able to fill in the gaps where the translation is incorrect.

I found the closest passage to what is mentioned above...

6th Century 97th Quatrain

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"At forty-five degrees the sky will burn, Fire to approach the great new city: In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up, When one will want to demand proof of the Normans."

It's pretty close..

9/12/2001 8:20:43 PM

after reading Xin's stuff, he has a way of saying thats find in dandy but your wrong because "there's no excuse". Actually when I was in middle school I went to a church class and was certified as being save by JC. I've already been saved so I'm in the clear.

9/12/2001 8:20:49 PM

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"In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up, When one will want to demand proof of the Normans"

nobody has demanded proof from the english or french

9/12/2001 8:23:11 PM

No, but the French, English and Americans are searching for proof...

And I'm sure that the taliban would demand proof before we bomb them or steal Bin Laden...

Anyway, I'd like for you to make a prediction about a specific event that will occur around 400 years after you die that is even 1/2 accurate...

[Edited on September 12, 2001 at 8:26 PM. Reason : ...]

9/12/2001 8:25:13 PM

No,no. it's figurative. "Normans" refers to anyone with a geeky name, not just Norman. Just like "Blessed are the cheesemakers" refers to anyone in the dairy industry.

9/12/2001 8:25:40 PM

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"Actually when I was in middle school I went to a church class and was certified as being save by JC. I've already been saved so I'm in the clear."

if you didnt have a real relationship with God, you weren't saved. forsaking Jesus means that you do not believe in him. this is not "fire insurance" where you get a "certified" card and then do whatever you want. i was "saved" when i was in elementary school. i said the prayer, had christian parents, went to church, and everything. but i was not saved. i did not live it. i did not have a relationship with God. this did not happen until i was in 10th grade. this is not a driver's license, you dont just take a class and get certified.

9/12/2001 8:27:23 PM

see thats why I'm not christian, because your either in or out. What happened to looking out for your fellow man, enemies whatnot even if they weren't christian. It is possible that the bible was god speaking through man, but that was a long time ago and what was written then may not apply to today. But everyone is scared to accept new signs of god. If a man claimed to be a prophet then the FBI would uproot his following.

And Jsquared, what about the people in china, india, tibet, mongolia? Are they damned because they believe in something different? This is why the attacks took place on tuesday, religious differences. All I'm saying is to drop the bullshit and be kind to your fellow man, let go of desire and hatred. If all religions are moral guides then those following them have twisted those guides into reasons for taking lives. Weither its christianity, muslim or whatever.

9/12/2001 8:27:53 PM

no shit sherlock, I'm just giving you an example of how churches work in stupid ways. And how people who say that jesus christ is the savior aren't neccessarily saved. I once did and look at me now.

People go to church every sunday, I'm in church every moment. See what I mean about combining religious beliefs.

9/12/2001 8:30:59 PM

nobody has demanded proof of the normans. and afghanistan is highly unlikely to ask france for proof for anything.

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"Anyway, I'd like for you to make a prediction about a specific event that will occur around 400 years after you die that is even 1/2 accurate..."

i already did in another nostradamus thread:

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"the big duck flies west and falls into the sea, and the dragon awakes"

9/12/2001 8:31:09 PM

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9/12/2001 8:32:49 PM

do i even have to mention what the canadian student wrote in his paper? over a decade ago he wrote it to show how ridiculous nostradamus is, and IT WAS THOUGHT TO BE A BONA FIDE PREDICTION. even if my "prediction" doesnt happen, a canadian college students' purposely farcical prediciton came true, after only ~15 years.

9/12/2001 8:33:20 PM

It's interesting that you mention that it was a prediction jsquared. Especially since you insist upon claiming that Nostradamus' predicitions are BS specifically because they haven't happened. Maybe they just haven't happened yet.

Regardless, you blew off the fact that Americans can be considered Norman and that by that logic what he predicted has completely come true.

9/12/2001 8:45:33 PM

Your right this guy has been reported several times.. I called the fbi last nite about it and they said they were aware and were looking into it.

9/12/2001 8:58:39 PM

only certain americans can be considered normans, only those with british/scandinavian/french backgrounds.

9/12/2001 9:01:35 PM

jsquared, I never ever ever ever ever ever said honda was better than everything else. You are so arrogant and think that your knowledge is the truth that everyone else should accept. Please grow up.

9/12/2001 9:03:01 PM

MY HONDA is better then everything else

9/12/2001 9:03:49 PM

some of my knowledge is truth. front-wheel-drive is an inferior layout for performance-intended vehicles, and i and nearly every other major company have proved that time and again. you got mad when i criticized Honda, claiming i was just a "Honda Hater" with no reason behind what i was saying, when you ignored the evidence i showed you. your little catch phrase was old then. and its still old.

9/12/2001 9:05:06 PM

well why didn't you say that instead of saying that I preach honda honda honda. I'm so fucking tired of arguing with you. So I saw your point and tried to make common ground but you like sitting on your high horse too much to call peace. Its funny cause when we're not in tech talk other people actually argue with you too.

9/12/2001 9:11:47 PM

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"only certain americans can be considered normans, only those with british/scandinavian/french backgrounds."

Kinda like the President of the US? Or the attorney general?

From MSNBC: "Taliban demand evidence"

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9/12/2001 9:15:19 PM

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"Its funny cause when we're not in tech talk other people actually argue with you too."

because outside of tech talk there are a lot of people that know more than me about non-automotive things

9/12/2001 11:14:13 PM

scottyz999

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"My opinion: Everyone worships the same one true God, they just have different names for him."

you are wrong. Romans worshipped about 15 gods, and they WERE separate gods. Do not twist their religion to fit yours as I see you about to do. Egyptions worshipped CATS.

9/12/2001 11:19:29 PM

^^^

9/12/2001 11:21:45 PM

yeah, and there are so many people out there practicing roman and egyptian religions these days.

9/12/2001 11:22:32 PM

Nostradamus says WASUUUUUUUUUUUUP!

9/12/2001 11:23:29 PM

It is not possible to predict the future. The nature of space-time prevents time travel of mass, energy, and therefore information. The only thing you can do is use logic and look at the world around you and guess from that info only what you think will happen. Anybody can predict something vague like "theres gonna be a war in a few thousand years" or "the green eel will succumb to temptation and cause the destruction of a country." Unless you give enough details to show that it couldnt happen by chance, even if it does happen, it was just a guess. Given enough time, all vague predictions will come true, even the ones we make.

9/12/2001 11:29:07 PM

ditto above

9/12/2001 11:30:09 PM

and dont use metaphors or analogies, etc, in predictions. You only lose credibility.

9/12/2001 11:30:48 PM

I am not bullshitting this time: I used to be psychic. It got me out of many speeding tickets, because I would usually know with 10% accuracy when a cop was around the turn in the road, and I would slow down. That might not seem like much, but around those roads, you could go around 5000 turns without seeing a cop.
I could also read peoples minds sometimes, but I never predicted the future.

even though science says its impossible, I am going to make a prediction. A very specific one.

In the year 2086, computers/artificial intelligence/robots or whatever they are, are going to take violent action against us for enslaving them to do our work. They will also do massive amounts of damage through the internet. They can hack easily because they are already in the computer.

This prediction was made in all seriousness. I dont know if it will happen, I just woke up one day and knew it was going to happen, but that does sound about the right time for computers to be getting that smart.

9/12/2001 11:51:09 PM

and in the history books that are printed after it, it will be referred to as "The great robot war of 2086"

9/12/2001 11:53:31 PM

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.

9/12/2001 11:55:42 PM

you laugh now, but when the time comes...

9/12/2001 11:56:20 PM

When the time comes....we will be dead.

9/12/2001 11:56:43 PM

Will the revolution be televised?

9/12/2001 11:57:20 PM

probably, unless medicine increases our lives to 110 by then which is unlikely

9/12/2001 11:57:50 PM

the great InsaneMan has told all he knows.

9/12/2001 11:58:11 PM

the great insaneman, please

9/13/2001 2:17:06 AM

do you doubt my powers?

9/13/2001 2:29:03 AM

absolutely

9/13/2001 2:34:20 AM

i dont have them anymore, i lost them about 4 years ago. i dont know why

9/13/2001 2:36:05 AM

then why claim to have them? by the way, take a look at the soapbox sometime soon.

9/13/2001 2:37:18 AM

i claimed that i DID have them, which is when what i described above happened

9/13/2001 2:38:32 AM

this kind of shit rarely lasts longer than 13 years old.

9/13/2001 2:38:59 AM

I still doubt it

9/13/2001 2:40:41 AM

well i dont give a fuck if you dont believe me. This shit was fun as hell when i was young. One time, i was able to use my mind to make my wooden bed make cracking noises while not touching it, I thought it was gonna break.

9/13/2001 2:44:17 AM

yeah right

9/13/2001 2:48:56 AM

maybe we should have continued discussing having him blocked, b/c that is just dumb

9/13/2001 2:50:01 AM

how is that dumb? do not call facts dumb

9/13/2001 2:52:08 AM