The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
i think he's a DNC plant 10/4/2016 8:35:20 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on October 4, 2016 at 8:42 PM. Reason : for p4]
10/4/2016 8:42:14 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Kaine is fucking lame as shit. "You are Trump's apprentice." Ugh GOD. It's almost as bad as "pokemon go to the polls". You are running against a goddamn fascist for christs sake.
[Edited on October 4, 2016 at 9:28 PM. Reason : Gee I wonder why they can't connect with millenials ] 10/4/2016 9:24:07 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Kaine looks terrible. 10/4/2016 9:28:04 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""You are Trump's apprentice."" |
Yeah that and the we're "you're hired" and you're "you're fired" are lame as fuck.10/4/2016 9:31:07 PM |
moron All American 34078 Posts user info edit post |
Pence is doing as good as he can deflecting from trump statements. 10/4/2016 9:51:56 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
God damn, Kaine is completely unpalatable. I mean he's really, really bad at this stuff. 10/4/2016 9:53:37 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pence is doing as good as he can deflecting from trump statements." |
As I read elsewhere, Pence is good at saying a lot of words without saying anything, and he's knocking that out of the park.
[Edited on October 4, 2016 at 10:00 PM. Reason : ^ He's well spoken enough, but is coming off as a dick.]10/4/2016 10:00:01 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, he has a very punchable face. It's not anything like Ted Cruz level, but he looks smug and smarmy all the time. 10/4/2016 10:04:25 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Guys I think when Pence looks down he's reading Sensible Chuckle Magazine.
It's the only explanation. 10/4/2016 10:05:20 PM |
moron All American 34078 Posts user info edit post |
I guess it's preaching to the choir but I like kaine hitting specific quotes and stringing facts together to discredit trump. Not sure how this plays with indepdents though. He's being fairly specific with his statements as well and os responding to questions more. 10/4/2016 10:06:45 PM |
moron All American 34078 Posts user info edit post |
Kaine struggling on what went wrong with reset question. 10/4/2016 10:16:37 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Kaine is the far superior attack dog surrogate. Which is what the VP should be. Pence, despite his superior style and panache, on the other hand...
Quote : | "Matt O'Brien @ObsoleteDogma
There are only two possibilities:
1) Pence isn’t aware of anything Trump has said in the last year
OR
2) He’s lying about everything" |
[Edited on October 4, 2016 at 10:18 PM. Reason : .]10/4/2016 10:17:10 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6599 Posts user info edit post |
God damn this sucks. Nearly unwatchable format, moderator getting completely shit on, talking way too fucking much about Putin/Russia, Tax returns, nuclear weapons, mass talking points.
American politics is such shit. So sad. 10/4/2016 10:17:29 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Kaine's facial expressions were not made for TV. at all. 10/4/2016 10:23:02 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Russians maybe hacked the DNC and now Clinton and Kaine want to go to war with them. And I guess Pence does too. 10/4/2016 10:26:19 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
nobody wants to go to war with russia. most people just prefer to not have the president of the united states being the little spoon to putin 10/4/2016 10:30:29 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6599 Posts user info edit post |
Pence: "come on, Trump doesn't mean everything he says..."
[Edited on October 4, 2016 at 10:31 PM. Reason : He's not polished, like we are] 10/4/2016 10:31:29 PM |
moron All American 34078 Posts user info edit post |
Actually said he's not polished like Kaine and Hillary.
I liked Kaine using Mathew to keep trump to his word. 10/4/2016 10:33:40 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah Pence came off way better 10/4/2016 10:38:10 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Kaine's facial expressions were not made for TV. at all." |
Yeah he reminds me of this guy:
10/4/2016 10:41:47 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Pence came off as more poised. But that's about it. He constantly lied to avoid have to answer for the outrageous shit that he and Trump have said.
"I'm sorry that Trump isn't polished enough to not say there shouldn't be punishment for women who get abortions"
[Edited on October 4, 2016 at 10:47 PM. Reason : .] 10/4/2016 10:46:48 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Who's ready for a Pence/Cruz/Tom Cotton GOP primary in 2020? 10/4/2016 10:47:45 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Pence would like to think this performance will wash the stink of Trump off of him in 4 years.
It won't.
[Edited on October 4, 2016 at 10:49 PM. Reason : .] 10/4/2016 10:49:06 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Pence was trying to win a debate, Kaine was trying to win an election. They both accomplished their goals. 10/4/2016 10:50:06 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yeah if this was a presidential debate I'd say Pence probably won (when I adjust for my own implicit bias, personally I think Kaine won in a landslide but I agree with his positions so I can't trust my own objectivity) but that doesn't matter. Pence seemed like a guy who was trying to win a debate for his own presidential campaign in 4 years instead of winning a debate for his own candidate. 10/4/2016 10:55:07 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pence was trying to win a debate, Kaine was trying to win an election. They both accomplished their goals." |
10/4/2016 10:55:07 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "instead of winning a debate for his own candidate." |
Come on. Could you really expect him to try and defend the stupid fucking shit Trump has said?10/4/2016 10:56:27 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 52977 Posts user info edit post |
^ I mean, Shrike is the guy who said he liked one guy's polling better because it agreed with his preestablished ideas better... 10/4/2016 10:57:07 PM |
moron All American 34078 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "PENCE: They're saying I won. Are you proud-- TRUMP: Two Fish Specials, STAT. (silence) PENCE: Is one for me? TRUMP: No. "Is one for me?" Ass" |
Ha this guy has the best fake conversations: https://twitter.com/onlxn/status/78351046922706125010/4/2016 11:44:57 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
This was a fun facebook thread that just happened...
Person A: Kaine shut the fuck up ..I'm trying to hear what Pence has to say
Me: To Mike Pence, making America great again would be going back to the 1950s where black kids went to different schools and women stayed home to cook. We don't really need to hear him say it again.
Person B: When 13% of a population commits over 50% of the violent crimes in a nation... going back to those 1950's values might not be all that bad a thing!
This is why there really is no point in arguing with most Trump supporters. I don't know how they got this way, but their view of America, how it works, and what it's ideals are supposed to be...it's just beyond comprehensible. 10/4/2016 11:49:35 PM |
moron All American 34078 Posts user info edit post |
^ i've seen that 13%/50% thing a lot recently, where did that come from?
I didn't realize we had 78 million violent crimes each year, seems like a lot
(sarcasm obviously)
[Edited on October 5, 2016 at 12:28 AM. Reason : ] 10/5/2016 12:27:33 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
its the lie that black people are violent 10/5/2016 12:39:57 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Come on. Could you really expect him to try and defend the stupid fucking shit Trump has said?" |
I expected him to try. Sitting there shaking his head and saying "no,no,no" in response to things Trump actually said and did is basically a campaign ad for Hillary.
Quote : | "I mean, Shrike is the guy who said he liked one guy's polling better because it agreed with his preestablished ideas better..." |
No, I liked one guys statistical predictive model better because it agreed with my preestablished ideas better, get it right.10/5/2016 8:15:37 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
lol at Shrike defending Kaine's shit performance, totally predictable 10/5/2016 8:40:42 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on October 5, 2016 at 8:49 AM. Reason : .]
10/5/2016 8:48:43 AM |
beatsunc All American 10740 Posts user info edit post |
i also thought kaine came off as a big jerk. he could have won on the issues but blew it imo
[Edited on October 5, 2016 at 8:56 AM. Reason : kept whipping that mexican thing out] 10/5/2016 8:55:36 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sitting there shaking his head and saying "no,no,no" in response to things Trump actually said and did is basically a campaign ad for Hillary. " |
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/783645247247114240
10/5/2016 9:00:26 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
8:15 is after 7:29 10/5/2016 9:08:40 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Kaine's shit performance? lol k
i mean if you consider bringing up virtually every single ridiculous thing Trump and Pence have said on the trail and making Pence lie over and over, sure it was a shit performance.
another mashup of the lies: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-trump-didnt-say_us_57f49732e4b015995f2c171a?
[Edited on October 5, 2016 at 9:10 AM. Reason : .] 10/5/2016 9:09:38 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Kaine was right about things, but c'mon dude, he looked terrible 10/5/2016 9:17:58 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
ITT we learned dtownral doesn't know what timezones are. 10/5/2016 9:18:36 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
something posted 2 hours ago happened before something posted 1.5 hours ago 10/5/2016 9:25:30 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Protip: Twitter tells you the timezone where you are (or PST if not logged in), TWW shows EST. 10/5/2016 9:37:08 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i'm in EST and logged into twitter
[Edited on October 5, 2016 at 9:40 AM. Reason : EST ] 10/5/2016 9:39:41 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Then fix your Twitter account's timezone settings? That post was made at 5:29 PST, I posted at 8:15 EST. This is literally a matter of record, and I really don't have the patience to argue basic math with you lol 10/5/2016 9:43:51 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he looked terrible" |
i agree that he came across as overeager and a even hyper at times. i also imagine that there were some pilots who had the same reaction during the great marianas turkey shoot. it was a target rich environment.
but the day after, what do you think is going to get more traction with undecideds? that kaine was overeager or that pence lied his ass off?
frankly, I don't think either will make a difference in the long run. but if one were to make an impact, I absolutely believe it was Pence's unabashed lying10/5/2016 9:49:42 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
With the next debate on Sunday and a hurricane coming, this will be out of the news within a few days. I say it makes no difference at all 10/5/2016 9:50:58 AM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Kaine did come across as a jerk, but one of his primary "duties" is the attack-dog, and I think he did a pretty good job of that. And I didn't know anything about either coming into the debate. I thought they both came across as turds. And Pence lied his ass off (of course, what else could he do?) 10/5/2016 9:59:21 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ if trump's unabashed lying hasn't swayed an undecided at this point, i really don't think pence lying will make a difference. facts just don't matter in american politics, appearance matters.
pence looked poised and presidential, and kaine didn't (he did nail the clinton thumb point though). kaine's problem was presentation, not content.
i also don't think either will make a difference, but pence had a much better performance. i think pence's performance might sway the opinion of someone considering trump who is worried that trump doesn't act presidential. i'm not sure what demographic kaine might sway, trump's lies have been called out many times already.
[Edited on October 5, 2016 at 10:00 AM. Reason : ^^^] 10/5/2016 10:00:01 AM |