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ncemt_03
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Beuller...... Beuller.......


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"The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary


My confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a crèche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship Nick and Jessica and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where Nick and Jessica came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?' (regarding Katrina) Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, 'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about And we said OK.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'


Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in. My Best Regards.

Honestly and respectfully,
Ben Stein
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11/7/2007 11:23:27 AM

hunterb2003
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win Ben Steins money

11/7/2007 11:24:01 AM

Vix
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"Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves "


You'd think someone as intelligent as Ben Stein would know that morality is not exclusive to religion.

11/7/2007 11:27:31 AM

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"Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in. My Best Regards.
"


I find it hard to believe he would say that on TV.

11/7/2007 11:30:51 AM

Nerdchick
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/benstein2.asp

11/7/2007 11:35:15 AM

bbehe
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Spock's son didn't commit suicide.

11/7/2007 11:36:05 AM

jocristian
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/benstein2.asp

[Edited on November 7, 2007 at 11:37 AM. Reason : slow ]

11/7/2007 11:36:24 AM

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"Update: In mid-2006, someone added the following coda (not written by Ben Stein) to this piece. It combines older items about a TV appearance that Anne Graham Lotz (the daughter of evangelist Billy Graham) made just after the September 11 terrorist attacks and the false claim that the son of child care expert Dr. Benjamin Spock committed suicide:"


Stein's message stopped at Nick and Jessica, the added message started with the jokes being passed around and the place of God in lives, or it being taken out of schools and such. The message doesn't exactly flow with Stein's portion, so whoever wrote it is just using the Stein name to progress their own opinion.

So yea, I find it hard to believe he said on national television "Forward this email plzkthx".

11/7/2007 11:39:49 AM

slackerb
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This sounds like it came from a 35 year old single mother who works at Wal-mart or something. Not

11/7/2007 11:43:20 AM

Førte
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this thread makes baby jesus cry

11/7/2007 11:44:56 AM

elduderino
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You'd think someone as intelligent as "Ben Stein" would know that this argument is so horribly flawed.


Thank Nick & Jessica for Scopes.


Praise Nick & Jessica!

11/7/2007 11:59:01 AM

Noen
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hahahahahahahaha

after the first two sentences I knew this was a complete fake. hahahahahaha

11/7/2007 12:32:32 PM

ThePeter
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^n00b

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"Confessions for the Holidays

Claim: Ben Stein delivered a commentary about the observance of Christmas.

Status: True. "

11/7/2007 12:34:44 PM

needlesmcgir
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I think the part that he actually said is good.

11/7/2007 1:20:15 PM

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[Edited on November 7, 2007 at 10:03 PM. Reason : scratch that.]

11/7/2007 9:58:27 PM

simonn
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god#1

11/7/2007 10:04:38 PM

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"'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?' "


If we don't pray in classrooms, God will fuck our shit up!

11/7/2007 10:04:45 PM

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