Oh, good, so we can take Texas after all then.

9/20/2011 11:13:37 PM

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"?"I am actually for ECU. Look at who leads the BE right now. WVU was not a great team until they got their break. USF is top 20 and were looking like were gonna fight for the championship...only 6 years in the BE and we have gone to 6 bowl games. Give these guys an AQ and they can start taking some of the recruits that NC, NC St and others normally get. They just scared the hell out of Vtech and only lost by 1 TD. I watched the game and if they had more depth, they had that game...same is true for their 1st game against South Carolina. They were up on them and rockin, but dont have the depth. This is WVU version 2 if they get an AQ. Nobody is going to be impressed with their academics but I dont care anymore. Let the ACC brag about how smart they are while ECU stomps them. Nice part about not being respected...you no longer have to worry. Give the little guys a chance and when they kick [Craig James], we can laugh at the goody goody ACC crew. " - one of many "for ECU" chatter on blogs"

9/21/2011 12:14:16 AM

So I guess "serious" HOOPS MALONE was just a page 29 thing.

9/21/2011 12:42:52 AM

LOL. If Craig James wasn't offered a shit load of money, his ass would have gone to a BCS-level school.

9/21/2011 12:56:49 AM

you know southern methodist wasn't in its current state at the time craig james went there right?

9/21/2011 1:03:19 AM

it just hit me how much of a self-fulfilling prophecy the 16 team conferences is. it's like a textbook definition.

9/21/2011 2:20:38 AM

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"Pac 12 not expanding"

Link:http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/32148466

I like it. The PAC-12 already negotiated their tv deal, what would they have to gain by bringing on four new teams to dilute the payout? Plus it give a nice big finger to Texas.

That or they're just covering their asses like the SEC did before getting and official request from Texas A&M.

9/21/2011 6:40:49 AM

From the article posted above:

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"we have a strong conference structure and culture of equality that we are committed to preserve."

My interpretation - Texas wouldn't drop the LHN bull crap, and we're not expanding without them, so ... we'll just say we're happy with 12 teams.

Texas is a fine school when it comes to athletics, but they bullied the Big 12 into more or less falling apart with their own TV network deal. Other schools got pissed they were getting a bigger cut (essentially, since they didn't have to split their TV deal). I hope they get left out in the cold in all this and end up as an independent (which they'll make a ton of money from anyway).

I don't want them in the ACC because you're setting a precedent for all schools to be only concerned about themselves. I don't think they would have ended up here anyway. Who knows though, this realignment stuff is changing every day. There is no telling who we end up with.

Perhaps we should go ahead and start the "Two Super Mega-Conferences with Thrity Two Teams Each!" thread.

9/21/2011 7:30:23 AM

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"My interpretation - Texas wouldn't drop the LHN bull crap, and we're not expanding without them, so ... we'll just say we're happy with 12 teams."

Yeh, it's why Texas is expected to go to ACC or become independent (b/c ACC is expected to be the only conference to let them keep the LHN)

[Edited on September 21, 2011 at 7:45 AM. Reason : .]

9/21/2011 7:43:47 AM

The Bay Area schools were never going to vote to add TT or Ok State..:

9/21/2011 8:04:11 AM

^^ Yea - I agree. I just hope we aren't stupid enough to have them come in with that network and bully around this conference in the same fashion. If you want your own TV network, go independent. I seriously doubt it would harm their revenue too much in football. Finding a conference that will take you for other sports and not football would be a little more difficult though, but as has been stated many times in this thread, this is all about the football.

9/21/2011 8:18:10 AM

Two things

1) ACC probably will stay at 14 now, because they have this weird idea that Syracuse owns NYC, which isn't true on their own.

2) Forget about ACCT in MSG. With UConn, Rutgers, St Johns, Seton Hall and Nova still in the BE basketball conference it ain't leaving MSG..

9/21/2011 8:21:15 AM

Ugh, I hope the person that mentions "that R school" gets cancer

9/21/2011 8:29:33 AM

So, academics? When did we slip to dead last in the ACC, tied with FSU?

9/21/2011 8:37:12 AM

People bashing Rutgers in this thread are hilarious. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

9/21/2011 8:42:16 AM

The only people bashing Rutgers are the people with SEC-envy.

Sorry you guys are stuck being fans of NC State (man oh man can you relate).

9/21/2011 9:15:29 AM

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"1) ACC probably will stay at 14 now, because they have this weird idea that Syracuse owns NYC, which isn't true on their own. "

I don't think anyone's under the impression that Cuse owns NYC. But it does help, in combination with Duke, to fling the NYC doors wide open.

But yeah, the ACC will probably stay at 14 unless it looks like the Big East might actually do something proactive to prevent UConn from leaving. If that happens (since the 27month period obviously didn't scare anyone off) then the ACC might make a rush grab for UConn and whoever the hell else the higher ups are actually looking at (I'm not convinced it's Rutgers, ND's obvious but unlikely).

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"So, academics? When did we slip to dead last in the ACC, tied with FSU? "

When the NCGA decided that educational funding wasn't a priority anymore. UNC's ranking has fallen as well, although not as dramatically as it should have (considering their current athletic issues have spilled over into academics).

We've gone down something like 20 places in the last decade, and you can probably look to funding as the ultimate problem.

[Edited on September 21, 2011 at 10:47 AM. Reason : ego removal]

9/21/2011 10:44:47 AM

just saw on twitter

9/21/2011 11:02:59 AM

^lol at the "Kind of want" picture of her.

9/21/2011 11:26:43 AM

^^ LOL at some of the tags at the bottom.

9/21/2011 11:41:40 AM

Clemson? Fuck Clemsonloler

9/21/2011 12:27:44 PM

that NYT survey is flawed... David Glen just said the same thing

9/21/2011 2:17:26 PM

So obviously this is all up in the air--but a few questions:

-If the PAC-12 is not expanding, then that may leave Oklahoma and OK State with nowhere to go. Rumors of the death of the Big 12 exaggerated? Pull it back together, invite some replacement teams, and carry on? Or is the dissolution of that conference a done deal?

-I don't get the hate for Rutgers. Sure, their teams are nothing special now, but there is a lot of potential and they have been upgrading facilities. Plus they're a good fit academically (unlike WVU or Louisville), they get us a piece of the NYC television market, and they make sense geographically as Jersey is definitely on the Atlantic Coast. Of course, now that the ACC may stand at 14 if the dominoes abruptly stop falling, it may be a moot point.

-Finally, why the hell does Penn State keep getting mentioned in this thread as a possible ACC member? Not in a million years would they leave the Big 10.

9/21/2011 2:53:23 PM

I believe the only reason Penn State's name has been mentioned at all is because Paterno made a comment like 20 years ago about creating a northeast conference with PSU, Syracuse, Boston College, Maryland and a few other schools that are currently in the ACC.

Penn State isnt coming to the ACC

9/21/2011 2:57:51 PM

this whole thing has gone down the shitter today. I hope the ACC adds 2 more to split into 2 equal divisions so we can act like it was the olden days again & forget about the northerners. Why the fuck did we add Cuse & Pitt if we don't add anymore? /rant. sorry.

9/21/2011 3:17:50 PM

And if we add 2 more BE teams, shouldn't we do it soon? It would be awful to have 1 year (2014) of 14 teams and then go to 16 the following year, since the BE is sticking to their 27 month notification policy.

9/21/2011 3:24:48 PM

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"When the NCGA decided that educational funding wasn't a priority anymore. UNC's ranking has fallen as well, although not as dramatically as it should have (considering their current athletic issues have spilled over into academics). We've gone down something like 20 places in the last decade, and you can probably look to funding as the ultimate problem."

So much for that mega-huge higher education bond issue that got shoved down mine and the rest of the student body's throat every chance the university got about 10 years ago on why it had to pass in the general election (and it did).

[Edited on September 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM. Reason : /]

9/21/2011 3:26:07 PM

I live in a Big East city and while changing in the locker room at the gym yesterday, everyone in there was shitting all over this move. I was getting my laugh on...silly big east

9/21/2011 3:51:23 PM

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"this whole thing has gone down the shitter today. I hope the ACC adds 2 more to split into 2 equal divisions so we can act like it was the olden days again & forget about the northerners. Why the fuck did we add Cuse & Pitt if we don't add anymore? /rant. sorry."

I think they want to add more, but don't want to jump the gun and add 2 more BE teams if somehow better/bigger schools are still in play. I think they know they can get 2 more BE teams at anytime to get to 16 but aren't in a hurry right now till they see how the rest shakes out. I give the ACC powers that be credit actually, I mean we are a bad football conference that has gone from potentially losing our best football teams one week to being talked about gaining ND and a solid conference the next. I don't really agree with all of it, but impressive turnaround to pull off though.

9/21/2011 4:02:48 PM

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"So much for that mega-huge higher education bond issue that got shoved down mine and the rest of the student body's throat every chance the university got about 10 years ago on why it had to pass in the general election (and it did)."

Those were for facilities. They don't rate on those alone (though Chuck Amato wishes SOME PEOPLE did).

9/21/2011 4:20:36 PM

^True. And there has been quite an improvement on facilities on campus.

Unfortunately there also has been a downgrade in personnel, class sizes, library hours and collection, and a myriad of other things. Thanks, legislature.

9/21/2011 5:27:16 PM

yeah, I travel by campus occasionally and see that (and still going on, saw the destruction of Talley for the first time in early August), but they just went on and on and on at the time about how if this thing didn't past how it would harm education in the UNC school system due to all the funds that'd get sidetracked, and it did anyway

[Edited on September 21, 2011 at 5:39 PM. Reason : .]

9/21/2011 5:37:41 PM

never mind. not worth arguing.

[Edited on September 21, 2011 at 5:39 PM. Reason : sd]

9/21/2011 5:38:17 PM

^ college administrators lie a lot, that covers both college debt/government spending and conference realignment

9/21/2011 5:39:55 PM

Aibyoyo is all over this

9/21/2011 5:54:24 PM

and ECU applies to join the Big East.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7001803/east-carolina-applies-big-east-conference-membership

& LOLZ @ Katz putting ECU in with the service academies.


[Edited on September 21, 2011 at 9:50 PM. Reason : .]

9/21/2011 9:45:30 PM

Not a fair comparison. At least the Naval Academy had David Robinson.

9/21/2011 9:57:13 PM

They need to leave the academies alone. They have a long rivalry going on with each other and the last thing we need is the BCS screwing that up.

9/21/2011 10:05:47 PM

^^^
There goes their basketball rep.

9/21/2011 10:30:12 PM

The academies should be independents. I would hate to ever know that they didnt play each other every year because they were trying to look more competitive for the BCS.

ECU to the Big East would be pretty awesome.

9/22/2011 1:34:38 AM

On the one hand, at least they'd quit whining and maybe we could get out of being forced to play them since other big schools would have too.

On the other hand, I don't think i could handle the level of smug that would envelop Coastal NC.

9/22/2011 6:43:26 AM

If ECU actually get accepted to the Big East, they'll make a BCS game before we do Might take 20 years, but still.

9/22/2011 6:51:19 AM

Heard something on the Dan Patrick Show today about the possibility of Notre Dame joining the ACC. Wouldn't be the worst addition but we would really be getting away from the whole atlantic coast thing. Probably wouldn't happen, if I was running ND I would want to stay independent.

9/22/2011 9:29:52 AM

Here's a good rundown of every conference's current situation (ACC below)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/sports/ncaafootball/after-realignment-jitters-calm-returns-to-college-football.html?_r=2&ref=sports

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"THE A.C.C. Don’t expect the Atlantic Coast Conference to make any sudden moves. It was out of character for the league to grow to 14 colleges to become the largest major conference in football in the country. Unless a university of tangible financial value surfaces (Notre Dame or Texas), the A.C.C. will stay at 14 for the near future. There is little chance it will add UConn or Rutgers anytime soon, unless it is to complement a college of significant football value. University presidents do not mind leaving leagues so bludgeoned that they need tourniquets, but killing one would be frowned upon. The only people who do not realize this are UConn officials, who are tripping over themselves to leak stories about their unhappiness with the Big East, which hurts that league’s efforts to look stable and expand. But UConn, which has no athletic director and a new president, may have nowhere to go. Because most realignment decisions are driven by football, joining Massachusetts in the Mid-American Conference could be UConn’s best available option at this point."

Thought this was interesting in the SEC section...

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"For the long term, the SEC would probably look to Virginia Tech or a North Carolina university."

9/22/2011 9:55:31 AM

MAN O MAN, CAN YOU RELATE!

9/22/2011 10:00:58 AM

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"Heard something on the Dan Patrick Show today about the possibility of Notre Dame joining the ACC. Wouldn't be the worst addition but we would really be getting away from the whole atlantic coast thing. Probably wouldn't happen, if I was running ND I would want to stay independent."

These are fresh, brand new ideas you have brought to the thread.

9/22/2011 10:13:05 AM

^^^ lol the MAC? Yeah, that'll happen. Though it would be funny to see a MAC team facerape all the BCS schools in basketball.

[Edited on September 22, 2011 at 2:04 PM. Reason : X]

9/22/2011 2:03:46 PM

Makes sense to me. Their hoops prowess dies with Calhoun. The last 20 years are an aberration. Long term, they're no different from Akron or Central Michigan.

9/22/2011 2:25:03 PM

UMass is in the MAC?

9/22/2011 2:46:39 PM

^

9/22/2011 2:52:54 PM