EVIDENCE OF BOMBS IN THE WTC TOWERS

New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers

40 second video clip:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/032404firefightersdiscuss.html MUST SEE

In the above video clip (during the second shot of a tower collapsing), take notice of
the two clear explosive charges going off.

NY City Fireman: "We think there were bombs set in the building"
People Magazine article: http://www.prisonplanet.com/louie_cacchioli.html

Some Survivors Say 'Bombs Exploded Inside WTC'
http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_22_01/Some_Survivors_Say__Bombs_Expl/some_survivors_say__bombs_expl.html

CBS Reporter describes "explosions" in both towers just prior to their collapse
audio here: http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2004/042704secondaryexplosions.htm

WTC Construction Manager: Towers Were Designed to Take Numerous Plane Crashes

short video clip: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/141104designedtotake.htm

First-hand Accounts of Underground Explosions In The North Tower
http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/underground/underground_explosions.htm

Seismic data shows two spikes just prior to collapse of twin towers:
http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_03_02/NEW_SEISMIC_/new_seismic_.html

Video evidence of groundshake prior to WTC collapse
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcshake.mpg

Images of the World Trade Center Site Show Thermal Hot Spots on September 16 and 23, 2001:
http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0405/ofr-01-0405.html (U. S. Geological Survey Report)
http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09.html (U. S. Geological Survey Report)

WTC Thermal Hot Spots: The Fingerprint of a Demolition:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_hotspots.html

Fire Engineers Call WTC Probe ‘Half-Baked Farce’
http://www.americanfreepress.net/Conspiracy/Fire_Engineers_Call_WTC_Probe/fire_engineers_call_wtc_probe.html

WTC Construction Certifiers Say Towers Should Have Easily Withstood Jet
Fuel Temperatures
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/121104easilywithstood.htm


[Edited on March 7, 2005 at 10:09 PM. Reason : %]

3/7/2005 9:55:39 PM

1.

Quote :

"New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers"

DISCUSSING it doesnt mean jack. they discussed all kinds of possibilities.

2.

Quote :

"NY City Fireman: "We think there were bombs set in the building""

WE THINK doesnt mean that it is true. again discussed all kinds of possibilities

3.

Quote :

"Some Survivors Say 'Bombs Exploded Inside WTC'"

fact is the buildings shook violently with loud explosions and dust and debris flying. natural reaction is that a bomb went off. many people still remembered the '93 bombing attacks on the WTC that caused the same disturbances.

4.

Quote :

"CBS Reporter describes "explosions" in both towers just prior to their collapse"

hahaha CBS having any shreds of credibility is out the window after the whole Bush memo scandal months ago where they clearly fabricated so called 'evidence'

5.

Quote :

"WTC Construction Manager: Towers Were Designed to Take Numerous Plane Crashe"

NOT FROM THAT TYPE OF AIRCRAFT WITH THAT MUCH FUEL

i can do this all freakin night. your stupidity simply amazes me beyond belief. you have not researched anything about any of this cause if u had, u'd realize that everything u have has been refuted to ridiculous extents. dont even shovel me the BS that you have done research either cause u havent. if u had, u'd know that the WTC was NOT tested with the type of aircraft that was used on 9/11 with the load of fuel they had. the fact u post opinion/editorials as fact is mind-numbing; you choose to ignore professionals in the field and listen to this drivel that gets spewed from this Alex Jones who has ZERO CREDIBILITY AND EDUCATION IN THE FIELD OF ENGINEERING.

[Edited on March 7, 2005 at 10:15 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2005 10:14:39 PM

Quote :

"i can do this all freakin night. your stupidity simply amazes me beyond belief. you have not researched anything about any of this cause if u had, u'd realize that everything u have has been refuted to ridiculous extents. dont even shovel me the BS that you have done research either cause u havent. if u had, u'd know that the WTC was NOT tested with the type of aircraft that was used on 9/11 with the load of fuel they had. the fact u post opinion/editorials as fact is mind-numbing; you choose to ignore professionals in the field and listen to this drivel that gets spewed from this Alex Jones who has ZERO CREDIBILITY AND EDUCATION IN THE FIELD OF ENGINEERING. "

3/7/2005 10:18:10 PM

the wtc held up very well against the airplanes

3/8/2005 1:41:53 AM

Last person to post here wins!!!

3/8/2005 7:55:48 AM

Quote :

"...if u had, u'd know that the WTC was NOT tested with the type of aircraft that was used on 9/11 with the load of fuel they had. the fact u post opinion/editorials as fact is mind-numbing; you choose to ignore professionals in the field..."

blah, blah, blah

I posted the following at the post at the top of this page. It is a link to a video clip of the WTC CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, Frank DeMartini, stating that the towers were designed to survive "multiple crashes" by airliners. I'm not ignoring this "professional in the field." And, yes, I know that the airliner used in the design was not EXACTLY the same as the aircraft that supposedly crashed into the twin towers. But the aircraft were similar, and the fuel loads of the respective aircraft are similar.

Quote :

"WTC Construction Manager: Towers Were Designed to Take Numerous Plane Crashes short video clip: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/141104designedtotake.htm"

From your response, I get the feeling that you did not really examine the information and videos from the links I posted above, but merely responded to the titles I placed above the links. That's fine. You are under no obligation to actually examine in any detail anything I post. But if you are going to try to make a meaningful response to it, you should at least examine it.

[Edited on March 8, 2005 at 8:37 AM. Reason : 1]

3/8/2005 8:31:37 AM

Quote :

"New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers 40 second video clip: http://www.prisonplanet.com/032404firefightersdiscuss.html"

Quote :

"brianj320: "DISCUSSING it doesnt mean jack. they discussed all kinds of possibilities.""

I don't think you actually watched the video clip. This is NOT a video of some firefighters
discussing the mere possibility of bombs in the towers and discussing other possibilities.

It is a video clip of several NYC Firefighters talking to each other shortly after one of the
WTC towers has collapsed. The Firefighters describe what they witnessed. One firefighter
states that the floors were "popping out", and another firefighter agrees with him saying
"it was if they had detonators that were planted to take down the building" and describes
the way the explosions proceeded down the building as it collapsed.

Also, in the second shot of a tower collapsing in the above video clip, you can see two
clear examples of explosive charges going off (ie, note the two expulsions of gas and dust
to the right of the building well below the collapsing portion of the tower).

This video clip is a MUST SEE.

[Edited on March 8, 2005 at 10:21 AM. Reason : 4]

3/8/2005 10:15:20 AM

Of the four firefighters, one mentioned "it was like there were detonators." This is most likely nothing more than an analogy. As the floors collapsed they blew out the windows of each floor - exactly like the "boom boom boom boom" that the firefighter described.

3/8/2005 10:21:45 AM

Mr. Joshua, what do you have to say about the two clear examples of
detonation charges going off in the second shot of a tower collapsing in the above video
clip, thrusting gas and dust out to the right of the building well below the collapsing
portion. There is no way that is being caused by the air pressure from the collapsing
floors above.

[Edited on March 8, 2005 at 10:34 AM. Reason : 1]

3/8/2005 10:24:19 AM

As far as I know, the WTC was unique in design in that the outer shell of the building held much of the stress that the fram ordinarily does (this has actually been cited as one of the reasons for its catastrophic collapse). The four sides of the building were like a rigid frame that supported the insides of the building. So as far as you know, the interior of the building could have been collapsing within the walls, or possibly one section badly damaged by fire collapsed first, blowing out the window below the actual point of collapse. Hell, it may even be from the immense air pressure being forced downward as the building collapses.

My question is how did those people working in the WTC that day not notice detonation charges planted in key areas around the building?

3/8/2005 10:32:13 AM

Quote :

"My question is how did those people working in the WTC that day not notice detonation charges planted in key areas around the building?"

It is my understanding that it takes a long time (perhaps at least a few days) to place
explosive charges to bring down a building in a controlled demolition (and particularly in
the case of buildings as large as the twin towers). So, the charges were not placed on
the morning of 9/11. They were in place well before September 11th, 2001.

[Edited on March 8, 2005 at 10:37 AM. Reason : 1]

3/8/2005 10:37:15 AM

I didn't mean to imply that charges had been planted that very morning, but why did no one ever see a demolition crew in the building? Wouldn't they have had to drill into the supports around the building and place charges in them? Wouldn't that have been terribly suspicious to anyone in the building?

3/8/2005 10:40:31 AM

Quote :

"I didn't mean to imply that charges had been planted that very morning, but why did no one ever see a demolition crew in the building? Wouldn't they have had to drill into the supports around the building and place charges in them? Wouldn't that have been terribly suspicious to anyone in the building?"

Ok, I see your question. I don't pretend to know the answer to this question. I'm not
aware of any facts that address this question, and can only speculate. Perhaps certain
explosives were placed late at night when all employees had gone home. As for the
explosives at the supports, perhaps they were placed after the building was closed the
night before 9/11. Or perhaps they were placed well before that, but in such a way as
to conceal them.

Regardless, from the evidence and information that is available, we do know that
explosive charges were in the WTC towers. The video evidence shows it and firefighters
and others witnessed and testified of the explosions. Just because we don't know all the
specific details of exactly how it was done does not mean that it didn't happen. That
evidence has not come out to the public yet. We can only go on what facts and information
has come out.

[Edited on March 8, 2005 at 10:53 AM. Reason : 1]

3/8/2005 10:49:22 AM

Quote :

"Regardless, from the evidence and information that is available, we do know that explosive charges were in the WTC towers. The video evidence shows it and firefighters and others witnessed and testified of the explosions....We can only go on what facts and information has come out."

We don't know that, it hasn't been proven. People compared the collapse to an explosion because that is one of the few events in our collective consciousness that could compare to something so catastrophic. These aren't facts, everything that you've presented is conjecture and creative interpretation based on extremely circumstantial evidence.

3/8/2005 10:57:55 AM

FAKE OSAMA BIN LADEN TAPES

No real evidence has been discovered or presented that links Osama bin Laden to the 9/11
attacks. Bin Laden has repeatedly denied any role in the attacks, and the video and audio tapes
put forward by the U.S. supposedly as evidence of bin Laden taking credit for the attacks have
turned out to be fakes, mistranslations, or otherwise tampered with.

You might be saying, "but bin Laden has confessed to being responsible for the 9/11 attacks,
right?" Well, let's take a closer look at that.

Here is a CNN article referring to a Dec. 2001 video tape that supposedly shows bin Laden taking credit for the 9/11 attacks:

CNN: "Bin Laden on tape: Attacks 'benefited Islam greatly'"
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/ret.bin.laden.videotape/

Now, take a close look at picture of the man from that tape that is purportedly the real Osama bin Laden.

Here is a comparison of the photo of the man from that video tape and a photo of the real
Osama bin Laden:



It is obvious that the man from the Dec. 2001 tape is not the real Osama bin Laden.

This is not the only example of a phony tape being used. Even the tapes that show the
real Osama bin Laden have been "doctored." In some tapes, portions of the audio have been
intentionally mistranslated in order to decieve. In other tapes, the audio has been tampered
with. Here is a BBC article claiming that a tape showing the real bin Laden is fake because the
voice in the tape is not the voice of bin Laden:

Bin Laden tape 'not genuine'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2526309.stm

Osama bin Laden consistently denied being behind the attacks. Here are two articles
demonstrating this. Note that the second article below is an extended interview with bin
Laden. It is a very interesting read. I have quoted some particularly interesting portions
of that interview below.

Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

September 2001 Interview with bin Laden
http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html

Quote :

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. ...The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. ...Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United States? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks." ...I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the [U.S. Government] system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is clear that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them." --Osama bin Laden"

More articles examining this issue:

The Fake bin Laden Video Tape
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

Is the 2004 Bin Laden Video Tape A Fraud?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape2.html

"Fatty" bin Laden
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/binladinvideo.html

Another Phony Bin Laden Tape
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/phony_bin_laden_tape.html


[Edited on March 8, 2005 at 11:32 AM. Reason : 1]

3/8/2005 11:15:37 AM

1 minute google search:
Bin Laden says he ordered 9/11 attacks
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-10/30/content_387058.htm


I looked this up and couldn't authenticate it.
September 2001 Interview with bin Laden

Quote :

"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States"

Although I did find this, which is directly connected to bin Laden and appears to completely contradict the interview attributed to him.
Text of Fatwah Urging Jihad Against Americans
Published in Al-Quds al-'Arabi on Febuary 23, 1998
http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm

Quote :

"The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it...We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it."

3/8/2005 11:32:52 AM

Quote :

"1 minute google search: Bin Laden says he ordered 9/11 attacks http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-10/30/content_387058.htm"

That article is referring to the 2004 "bin Laden" tape that magically surfaced just before the
elections. That tape is most likely a fake as well.

Here is an article addressing the 2004 "bin Laden" tape. Take a CLOSE LOOK at photo of
the man in the tape. Compare the features of the face to that of the real bin Laden. Is that
the real Osama bin Laden?

Is the 2004 Bin Laden Video Tape A Fraud?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape2.html


[Edited on March 8, 2005 at 11:58 AM. Reason : 7]

3/8/2005 11:44:46 AM

Thats not very convincing at all. The man in the tape looks like bin Laden, and the tape was noted around the world as being legitimate. Just because you can find a story calling it fake doesn't mean that it actually is.

What about bin Laden's Fatwah?

3/8/2005 11:50:49 AM

sailisburyboy reminds me of this crazy fag my dad used to work with

did you also trace the bush family back to the kennedy assasinations, cause apparently they were responsible

3/9/2005 1:41:26 AM

This is really intresting..but the fatwa is bullshit...why kill the american people...everyone in this world is innocent unless they do something that is against humanity ...i belive what that quote

"The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it...We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it."

was meant to say that anyone who fights muslims and occupy their land (any land be it afganistan, palestine, iraq, iran, etc...) by FORCE (which aparently now its the americans..and let me add to that..its not the people its the government and its foreign polocies..and their aid to israel ) that they deserve to die....

basically in a nutshell summation "if you come to my house and try to take it over and call me a terorrist and YOUR in my DAMN house..iam gonna kill you."

and yea watsup with that shiiit....america (GWB_and rest) goes to afganistan (and other)---> takes thier oil and shit over, say that they will rebuild..which never happened...made the women close to naked ...call the people who try to defend THEIR fucken land terorrist...then say that they are doing freedom and spreading democracy...shiit its happening in IRAQ, Palestine/Israel, and all over... why the fuck that ppl trying to defend their land are being called fucken terorist...that is fucken bullshit.....lets put ourselves in their shoes...wtf would we do!??

3/9/2005 3:18:37 AM

3/9/2005 5:55:02 AM

Quote :

"and yea watsup with that shiiit....america (GWB_and rest) goes to afganistan (and other)---> takes thier oil and shit over, say that they will rebuild..which never happened...made the women close to naked ...call the people who try to defend THEIR fucken land terorrist...then say that they are doing freedom and spreading democracy...shiit its happening in IRAQ, Palestine/Israel, and all over... why the fuck that ppl trying to defend their land are being called fucken terorist...that is fucken bullshit.....lets put ourselves in their shoes...wtf would we do!??"

I don't even know where to begin. Go read a newspaper.

3/9/2005 9:32:53 AM

what are you talking about
the papers i read say that we nationalized afghani oil fields and stole their womens clothes

3/9/2005 7:37:45 PM

newspapers are fucking shit...lies and bullshit.
wat iam talking about is clear...crystal clear...everyone knows it....i mean why the hell did the whole fucken world protest against the war in iraq...then all of a sudden we are over there...were is democracy!? Bushshit....all of it is bullshit

3/10/2005 1:38:19 AM

1) Bin Laden's Fatwah is not bullshit. It can be directly attributed to him.

2) Bin Laden had a beef with US troops being in Saudi Arabia, even though they had been invited by the Saudi government

3) The Fatwah predates the War on Terror by several years.

4) There is no oil in Afghanistan.

5) GWB made no one "close to naked". The Taliban regime (which forbid women to show their faces, or any skin at all, for that matter) was ousted. This brought modern treatment of women to the region. The US has never had troops in Palestine.

6) Much to your dismay, Congress approved the use of force in Iraq, you can't blame it all on Bush.

3/10/2005 9:40:02 AM

Quote :

"There is no oil in Afghanistan"

Afghanistan is a key location for an oil pipeline.

BTW, the Taliban was not going along with the plans for the pipeline. Also, the Taliban has cracked down on opium/heroin production in Afghanistan prior to 9/11. Now, after 9/11, Afghanistan's production of heroin has skyrocketed. These were some of the reasons for the war.

Quote :

"Congress approved the use of force in Iraq"

The Constitution requires that Congress declare war. To my knowledge, Congress did not do that in the case of this war in Iraq. In fact, if I am not mistaken, Congress has not declared war since World War II. All the wars since WWII the U.S. has fought have been fought unconstitutionally.


[Edited on March 10, 2005 at 9:48 AM. Reason : 1]

3/10/2005 9:43:18 AM

1) Where is this mysterious "Afghan Oil Pipeline" that we went to war over?

2) Why does the US want increased heroin production? (this should be good)

3) The constitution gives Congress the ability to declare war,although the Supreme Court has determined that the president (commander-in-chief of the military) has the authority to recognize a "state of war" initiated against the United States and may in these circumstances unilaterally send U.S. troops into battle. GWB has also stated that his powers as commander-in-chief allow him to act independently in defense of the nation.

-The Korean War was seen as a police action, and thus no declaration of war was needed.
-The Vietnam War was preceded by the Gulf of Tonkin resolution (passed by Congress)
-Gulf War I liberated Kuwait and invloved no occupation of foreign soil
-Afghanistan was attacked because a state of war existed between the two nations following 9/11 as the Taliban was harboring the culprits. This was also done in defense of the nation.
-Gulf War II was begun under the pretext of national defense

How were these unconstitutional?

3/10/2005 10:06:15 AM

wow you are missing every point

1 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2017044.stm

2 he said it has gone up since our invasion, AKA bad to have more opium and herion.

3 you said the president was not all to blame, then said the president had the full power (aka not backed others)...

maybe you want to explain this more?

3/10/2005 10:56:01 AM

1) That pipeline doesn't provide the US with oil, isn't that the only reason that we go to war?

2) "Also, the Taliban has cracked down on opium/heroin production in Afghanistan prior to 9/11. Now, after 9/11, Afghanistan's production of heroin has skyrocketed. These were some of the reasons for the war."

This statement makes it sound like the US wanted Afghanistan to increase opium/heroin production.

3) I said that the President has the ability to go to war in some circumstances. I wasn't talking about any specific president, I was simply discussing ways that a state of war can be reached in the absence of a full declaration. However, in the case of Iraq it was the president with the backing of Congress.

Plz lurn to reed.

3/10/2005 11:05:02 AM

On the rise in heroin production in Afghanistan after 9/11...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2814861.stm

The CIA and U.S. government ship the drugs into the United States. That is well documented. Gary Webb, the Pulitzer prize-winning journalist, had exposed this and wrote extensively about it (that is, before he was murdered and his death ruled a "suicide" by the government and media). Money from drug trafficking is a HUGE source of income for the so-called "shadow government", which is used to fund so-called "black projects."

Not too long ago, some of the truth came out when it was discovered that the government was shipping drugs into the U.S. at Mena, Arkansas.

archive on Mena, AR scandal:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/mena.html

The so-called "war on drugs" is just as phony as this "war on terror." It is the government that is creating the terror, and it is the government that is shipping in the drugs.


[Edited on March 10, 2005 at 11:12 AM. Reason : 1]

3/10/2005 11:08:10 AM

Legitimate sources only, please.

3/10/2005 11:13:53 AM

1

Quote :

"American companies might join a long-delayed trans-Afghan natural gas pipeline project expected to be launched in 2006, the U.S. ambassador to Turkmenistan said Tuesday. "We are seriously looking at the project, and it is quite possible that American companies will join it," U.S. Ambassador Tracey Anne Jacobson said, speaking in Russian, after a meeting with Turkmen President Saparmurat Niyazov. The Turkmen government said Monday that a feasibility study for the project for a pipeline from the gas-rich Central Asian nation through Afghanistan and Pakistan was complete, and that construction would begin in 2006. "

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/ap/2005/01/18/ap1764703.html i do note is says might... but there is a big possibility this will bring money to US companies.

2 i think the point is clear either way it is argued, the situation is worse, we get more drugs...

3 wasn't the decleration to give him the ability to make the decision, then he made the decision based on his own decision making skills, therefore it was his decision...

3/10/2005 11:59:02 AM

1) The Taliban was ousted and an American company might make a profit there one day. Regardless, the US gets no oil out of the deal, so the whole "War for Oil" arguement doesn't work here.

2) Actually, Afghan opium goes mostly to Europe, as far as I know most US opium comes from the Golden Triangle in SE Asia. Regardless, the US invasion wasn't a plot to increase heroin use worldwide.

3) As the executive, the president ultimately makes the decision, although he did so with a wide base of support and a resolution passed by congress, which is exactly what I said. My point is that you can't blame the entire thing on GWB acting against the will of American people, which has become the hip thing to do in some circles lately.

3/10/2005 12:14:33 PM

Reply to Popular Mechanics re 9/11
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm

3/15/2005 5:17:19 PM

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/200305terroristplan.htm

Quote :

"The Perfect Terrorist Plan To Level The Twin Towers Created In 1976 American Free Press March 20 2005 Our own U.S. Army devised a plan commissioned by Congress to bring down the WTC using commercial airliners and box cutters as weapons. "

Quote :

"Comment: If completely confirmed 100% then this is THE smoking gun, over and above Northwoods, the NORAD stand down, the explosives in the buildings, any other piece of 9/11 evidence. It's going to be interesting to see how they pass this one off as a 'coincidence' - we need to get this on newswires immediately. This is the straw that could break the camel's back."

3/20/2005 1:11:47 PM

^ hahaha wtf

3/20/2005 1:15:35 PM

Who is Dov Zakheim?
http://judicial-inc.biz/Dov_zakheim.htm

Flight 77 and Dov Zakheim
http://judicial-inc.biz/Dov_Zakheim_Fl_77.htm

.
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Popular Mechanics Claims Landing Gear Made Pentagon 12 Foot Hole
http://www.rense.com/general63/pmm.htm

Purge of the senior staff at Popular Mechanics preceded the publication of 9/11 propaganda piece
http://www.rense.com/general63/brutalpurgeofPMstaff.htm

[Edited on March 20, 2005 at 6:08 PM. Reason : 2]

3/20/2005 5:50:52 PM

It seems like we can blame everything on the Jews!

Quote :

"Betar was formed in 1923 Riga, Latvia, and it's goal was control of the Mideast (and it's oil). Jabotinsky knew the Jews needed their own country and they chose Palestine and claimed it as a Jewish state "on both sides of the Jordan." "

Israel was founded by the British in 1917.

Very little was known about the presence of oil in the middle east in 1923.

Your story is full of holes.

3/20/2005 6:01:58 PM

^ they have time machines.

3/20/2005 6:13:40 PM

Alex Jones at Ground Zero: The Use Of Explosives in the 9/11 Attack on the WTC
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/180305groundzero.htm

Quote :

"The evidence that explosives were used in the 9/11 attack is so overhwelming that three full length films could have been made on the subject alone. In this 22 minute clip Alex reports from ground zero and talks to eyewitnesses who were there on the day who reported bombs."

[Edited on March 20, 2005 at 6:38 PM. Reason : 2]

3/20/2005 6:37:37 PM

New Questions About Real Identity of 9-11 Hijackers: Ticket agent says Atta, Alomari were dressed in business suits; surveillance photos don’t match
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/new_questions_about.html

3/21/2005 12:13:54 PM

the info in these articles is no longer surprising to those who take them even slightly seriously,
and those who don't continue to laugh and point

still there are the curious ones ...

3/21/2005 2:44:38 PM

Quote :

"Some magazine by the name of Popular Mechanics recently came out with an issue in which the main story was called 9/11: Debunking The Myths:"

thats hilarious coming from a nut job website

3/21/2005 2:49:14 PM

Its still completely implausible to think that enough demolition charges could be discreetly hidden in both of the twin towers. This would have been the largest controlled demolition in the history of man. To demolish a building one needs to drill into the support structure of a building and plant explosives within them. No one noticed men in black coats drilling holes in the walls in the days and weeks preceding the attack. Likewise, no one noticed the miles of wire that would have to be in place to set off the charges.

The people who reported hearing "bombs" have no training the area and probably have little idea of what a bomb sounds like. Hearing successive floors collapse on one another created a pretty loud noise. The only similar sound in our collective consciousness (and the first one to come to mind) would be the sound of a bomb.

3/21/2005 3:01:29 PM

^ excellent point

3/21/2005 11:50:34 PM

Russian Intelligence Chief Says Al-Qaeda a Myth
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/03/21/shebarsh.shtml

Quote :

"On the pretext of fighting international terrorism the United States is trying to establish control over the world’s richest oil reserves, Leonid Shebarshin, ex-chief of the Soviet Foreign Intelligence Service, who heads the Russian National Economic Security Service consulting company, said in an interview for the Vremya Novostei newspaper. Using the anti-terrorist cause as a cover the United States has occupied Afghanistan, Iraq and will soon move to impose their “democratic order” on the Greater Middle East, Shebarshin said. “The U.S. has usurped the right to attack any part of the globe on the pretext of fighting the terrorist threat,” Shebarshin said. Referring to his meeting with an unnamed al-Qaeda expert at the Rand Corporation, a nonprofit research organization in the U.S., Shebarshin said: “We have agreed that [al-Qaeda] is not a group but a notion.” “The fight against that all-mighty ubiquitous myth deliberately linked to Islam is of great advantage for the Americans as it targets the oil-rich Muslim regions,” Shebarshin emphasized. "

[Edited on March 22, 2005 at 9:57 AM. Reason : 1]

3/22/2005 9:56:00 AM

Maybe you should read up on Leonid Shebarshin. He is the former chief of intelligence of the KGB, he isn't and never was the "Russian Intelligence Chief." He is an unrepentant communist who still believes in the spirit of Marxism.

He's probably somewhat biased by his own feelings towards the US, as well as his own struggles against rebels in Afghanistan.

3/22/2005 11:27:14 AM

Chicago Tribune: "New records: FBI helped Saudis leave U.S. after 9/11"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0503270415mar27,1,5329062.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

link to the article off google here: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&tab=nn&ie=UTF-8&q=Chicago+Tribune%2C+New+records%3A+FBI+helped+Saudis+leave+U.S.+after+9%2F11&btnG=Search+News

Quote :

"WASHINGTON, March 26 - The episode has been retold so many times in the last three and a half years that it has become the stuff of political legend: in the frenzied days after Sept. 11, 2001, when some flights were still grounded, dozens of well-connected Saudis, including relatives of Osama bin Laden, managed to leave the United States on specially chartered flights. Now, newly released government records show previously undisclosed flights from Las Vegas and elsewhere and point to a more active role by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in aiding some of the Saudis in their departure. The F.B.I. gave personal airport escorts to two prominent Saudi families who fled the United States, and several other Saudis were allowed to leave the country without first being interviewed, the documents show."

[Edited on March 29, 2005 at 12:38 PM. Reason : 3]

3/29/2005 12:29:35 PM

i love how this douche ignores posts.

3/29/2005 12:33:12 PM

OK, I only read about half of this thread, but listen up. I know for a fact that a plane hit the pentagon becasue I saw it. With my own eyes.
I was on my way to DC with my parents on the morning of September 11. I took the week off of school and after spending Monday night in Richmond, we were headed up to see the sites in DC. We were coming up on washington and were almost to the point where the pentagon is visable on the left. I was driving and my dad was in the passenger seat. All of a sudden we both see a plane coming from the right and behind us, though we hadn't heard it apporach. National Airport is in the direction that the plane was flying, but this plane was flying low and fast. It crossed our path and disappeared for about 2 seconds before we saw a flash of light and heard what sounded like a muffled firework. A few seconds later, we saw a large plume of smoke coming from where the plane had been headed. Just then we came around the bend and saw the building on fire. Fucking scary as shit. We pulled over on the side of the road, as did some of the other drivers, to watch and talk to the other people who had seen it, but about 5 minutes later a bunch of cops came through running everybody out.
So yeah, it was a plane. End of thread.

3/29/2005 2:32:22 PM