Quote :

"i'll buy more than 100 rds...i was just thinking in terms of price per 100 rds."

From what I've seen, about 30 cents a round for regular old 230FMJ is going to be pretty typical these days. You might get it for 26 cents or so per from Wal-Mart if you can ever find it in stock. Yea, I know it used to be $16.99 per hundred a couple of years ago.
Panic buyers and hoarders have been cleaning out Wal-Marts every time they get shipments of popular calibers in lately.

4/28/2009 9:47:22 AM

I just got my Crossbreed SuperTuck IWB Deluxe holster and I'm not too sure about it. It's relatively comfortable to wear anywhere so far, but it prints like hell. I'm new to CC so any suggestions, etc? I've tried from 2:00 to 6:00 (but anything past 4 is tough since it's a right handed holster) and 2:00 works best, but is the least comfortable.

I've got a XD-40 Service model. I talked to a few people, including the crossbreed guys, and everyone said that this pistol would conceal just fine with this holster... Is it just body shape? Fitting of clothes? ???

[Edited on April 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM. Reason : .]

4/28/2009 11:53:03 AM

It really does have to do with body shape, clothes, and pistol.

you have to dress around the pistol.

what do you mean by printing? are you wearing fitted shirts? might need a lower holster (which would affect draw).

are your pants too tight?

do you have a good enough belt? double layer, double stitched bullhide or horsehide is best.

4/28/2009 1:01:02 PM

Just normal polos/t-shirts. One pair of pants is too tight but the other pair is maybe a size too large. And I got a crossbreed belt with the holster.

I'm thinking I'm just too fat for it

4/28/2009 1:05:41 PM

Quote :

"I've got a XD-40 Service model. I talked to a few people, including the crossbreed guys, and everyone said that this pistol would conceal just fine with this holster... Is it just body shape? Fitting of clothes? ??? "

"Everybody said" = No

But yeah, it's got to do with your firearm, clothing, holster and body type (Maybe even more than that honestly). Some people can carry a Glock 26 in an ankle holster, but I sure as hell can't without it being obvious. I have a hard time even carrying a Ka-Bar TDI on my ankle, let alone a J-frame or baby Glock.

The best bet is to find out what will work well for you. You'll probably want to tuck in one shirt and wear a button-up shirt over it. Leave that unbuttoned and it should cover the IWB shyte quite well. I will say I've heard nothing but good things about that holster, so I'd definitely hold onto it and find clothes that will work with it. I prefer small framed handguns and pocket carry. I also love a good J-frame with a $20 "clip draw" device. This is damn near impossible to see on even the smallest framed person. You can carry a J-frame equipped with a clip draw even if all you're wearing is pocketless/beltless shorts (Like swimming trunks or workout shorts) and a t-shirt. You could probably also carry a Kel-Tec PF-9 (2 are available for just over $300 at PDHSC right now), or a Kahr PM9, in a similar manner to the J-frame without any fear of "printing." The slide thickness on 9mm/.40/.357 Glocks is significantly less than it is on the XD from what I recall. The XD isn't the smallest weapon, even in Subcompact. During the summer months, larger framed handguns like that are going to be difficult to conceal on an average sized person.

[Edited on April 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM. Reason : ]

4/28/2009 1:24:25 PM

^^^^
I CC with an XD-9 service with the same outer dimensions so I know what you're dealing with. I'm looking heavily into a subcompact for summer months like this when I have to wear normal dress shirts or tucked polos for work with dress pants. A full size XD was no problem during the winter months whenever I could wear a sports or wool jacket and keep it holstered at my 5 o'clock, and during the spring/summer it doesn't print if I kept my posture straight and didn't hunch over. I'm an average height small-to-medium build guy and found a left-hand IWB holster worked better for me at my 6 o'clock. I just seem to draw the pistol more easily than if it were a right-hand IWB at the small of back or anywhere. My flexibility must not be great (or I have gorilla arms) because it was more of a pain trying to manuever a smooth draw from my 1 to 6 IWB with a right-hand holster. You'll just have to pay either to find the style and location you like or a smaller gun.

[Edited on April 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM. Reason : .]

4/28/2009 6:38:00 PM

I never had a problem with the crossbred except for the retention; just couldn't get it right. Right now I have a Woolfe Gun Leather IWB and a Wilderness Tactical Belt (I'm cheap!) and have no problems hiding a full-size hand gun in shorts and t-shirt.

4/29/2009 4:15:21 PM

Isn't the gun show at the fairgrounds this weekend?

5/2/2009 11:13:21 AM

yes

5/2/2009 11:39:32 AM

If anyone's going, I'd really appreciate it if you could pick me up some .45 acp. Bulk is fine.

5/2/2009 12:10:40 PM

picked up a blackhawk serpa at the show for my g27 for $40, love this thing.

5/2/2009 5:07:50 PM

yeah I picked one up for my sig and my j-frame...

5/3/2009 12:05:47 AM

i found someone who's going to the show (actually, he's working at his friend's booth, trying to sell some of his stuff). His instructions are to pick me up as much .45 acp as can be found for $200, haha.

5/3/2009 9:02:50 AM

damn it i missed it

5/3/2009 2:11:33 PM

Didn't miss much.

5/3/2009 4:07:12 PM

i never go b/c i can't find anything that jumps out at me at a good price.

the entry fee is too high imo.

5/3/2009 6:15:11 PM

I had planned to go, as nobody local had the little gun I wanted in stock, the NAA 22 magnum micro revolver kit with wooden grips and a 22 LR swap in cylinder. I talked myself out of going in order to go get some reloading done.

5/3/2009 6:29:34 PM

do any short barrel (18, 18.5") shotguns have red/green dot night sites? Something relatively inexpensive. I haven't seen anything yet.

5/4/2009 8:44:22 PM

probbably not, but you can add them for a little $$. truglo makes a nice one, so does williams with the firesight

5/4/2009 10:11:05 PM

yeh, I figured. I guess I'd have to add a rail too?

5/4/2009 10:28:20 PM

there are a few that have a rail and all the rest with them. All depends, do you want a rail for a light, or for a scope/red dot, etc

5/4/2009 10:55:54 PM

I just want a short barrel 12 ga, pump, synthetic stock shotgun. I've looked at quite a few turkey guns and the sights are pretty sweet and was wondering if there were any short barrels with the same sights (red/green dots) or a rail where sights could be replaced.

[Edited on May 5, 2009 at 5:08 PM. Reason : oh yeh, I FINALLY picked up my CCP!!!!! but haven't been able to exrecise it ]

5/5/2009 4:52:37 PM

look at the Charles Daly and other similar guns in tactical models, many sport ghost ring or dot sites, some sport rails as well

5/5/2009 5:29:42 PM

my dad actually wants to give me a couple of older charles daly's


i think one is an over under, which I think would be neat to have

5/5/2009 5:58:50 PM

For all those who say students with guns are not a viable deterrent to crime - get this
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html

Quote :

"COLLEGE PARK, Ga. - A group of college students said they are lucky to be alive and they?re thanking the quick-thinking of one of their own. Police said a fellow student shot and killed one of two masked me who burst into an apartment. Channel 2 Action News reporter Tom Jones met with one of the students to talk about the incident. "Apparently, his intent was to rape and murder us all", said student Charles Bailey. Bailey said he thought it was the end of his life and the lives of the 10 people inside his apartment for a birthday party after two masked men with guns burst in through a patio door. "They just came in and separated the men from the women and said, 'Give me your wallets and cell phones'", said George Williams of the College Park Police Department. Bailey said the gunmen started counting bullets. "The other guy asked how many (bullets) he had. He said he had 'enough'", said Bailey. That's when one student grabbed a gun out of a backpack and shot at the invader who was watching the men. The gunman ran out of the apartment.The student then ran to the room where the second gunman, identified by police as 23-year-old Calvin Lavant, was holding the women. "Apparently the guy was getting ready to rape his girlfriend. So he told the girls to get down and he started shooting. The guy jumped out of the window", said Bailey. A neighbor heard the shots and heard someone running nearby. "And I heard someone say, 'Someone help me. Call the police. Somebody call the police'", said a neighbor. The neighbor said she believes it was Lavant, who was found dead near his apartment, only one building away. Bailey said he is just thankful one student risked his life to keep others alive. "I think all of us are really cognizant of the fact that we could have all been killed", said Bailey. One female student was shot several times during the crossfire. She is expected to make a full recovery. Police said they are close to making the arrest of the second suspect."

Good shoot.

5/8/2009 9:22:46 AM

gun will turn a man from fight to flight in a heartbeat

5/8/2009 9:57:33 AM

Quote :

"gun will turn a man from fight to flight in a heartbeat"

lets hope so!

5/8/2009 10:10:47 AM

SOMEONE CALL 20/20. THIS SHIT JUST DEBUNKED THEIR ENTIRE DOCUMENTARY.

5/8/2009 10:16:11 AM

Quote :

"Channel 2 Action News reporter Tom Jones met with one of the students to talk about the incident. "Apparently, his intent was to rape and murder us all", said student Charles Bailey."

I get what he's saying, but hopefully they aren't there to do that to all of them.

Wait so the gunman who got shot and ran out was yelling for help from the police then died? If so that's hilarious.

[Edited on May 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .]

5/8/2009 2:19:43 PM

Quote :

"Channel 2 Action News reporter Tom Jones"

It's not unusual.

5/8/2009 2:22:52 PM

i went shotgun shopping today and ended up with a Bersa 380

5/9/2009 2:21:38 PM

OC, CC, nC dinner tonight at CiCi's in Cary
7:00 pm

5/9/2009 3:20:25 PM

dammit, supposed to be eating with the gf and her mom. I'll see what I can do about blowing that off.

still looking for a shotgun though. I really like the mossberg 500 tactical 12 ga with adjustable stock and heat shield

I've only seen one used one. As for other guns, Walmart sucks and all others seem way overpriced

[Edited on May 9, 2009 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .]

5/9/2009 3:24:12 PM

http://www.buymilsurp.com/ is a great source for stripper clips and other milsurplus parts and extras. My M91 stripper clips form them were VERY nice, as were the SKS clips.

And some humor, for any who have not yet seen this:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm

[Edited on May 9, 2009 at 10:52 PM. Reason : linkfix]

5/9/2009 10:50:59 PM

I decide to head to Walmart after the OC dinner at Cici's.

At 9:00pm, I arrived at the Glenwood store and attempted to purchase 500 rounds (10 boxes) of Blazer. They had about 20 boxes, so I was going to leave some for others. The guy informed me I could only have 6 boxes. I asked why, as there was no signage indicating this.
He tells me that the federal government has started regulating sales to only 6/person/day. He said walmart had no say in the matter, and he wouldn't care if I bought all of it, but it was against the law, and they are cracking down on it. He said he got a memo about it on Wednesday.
I laugh, buy my 6 boxes, and leave. Of course, the door alarm rings as I am leaving and two 'security' stop me and demand to see my receipt. I comply, as I don't feel like making a scene.
No real problems, just kind of humorous.

I then procede to the Briar Creek location, and arrive about 9:40pm.
I walk to the sporting goods, and spend 15 minutes looking for the sales rep for the department.
The sales guy finaly shows up, and I tell him I would like to buy some of the Blazer .40. The rest goes something like this (paraphrase and memory):
Him: You're carrying a firearm
Me: Yes sir, I am.
Him: I'm not comfortable selling you ammo while you have a gun
Me: I would just like to buy the ammo and I will be on my way
Him: I'm going to call a manager, and they can sell it to you if they want.
Me: That's fine, but what makes you uncomfortable with selling me ammo?
Him: There are lots of people in the store, and I don't have to sell it to you if I don't feel comfortable. The manager can't override my descission either. If I don't feel comfortable selling you ammo, then we won't.
He then calls the manager: There is a guy here who wants to buy ammo, but he has a gun. I don't feel comfortable selling it to him, but you can if you want. You don't have to though, because he didn't get it checked at the door.
Me: What? I don't have to get my firearm checked at the door.
Him: Walmart policy says you are supposed to have your gun checked at the door and they are supposed to escort you while you do your business.

At this point I'm going to paraphrase so I don't type all night.
He says walmart policy is that firearms are to be checked at the door, or left in the vehicle. I asked him if he would of sold me ammo if I was CC, since he wouldn't know that I had a gun. He didn't have an answer, just repeated supposed walmart policy.

The assistant manager (AM) shows up now. Sales guy (SG)
At this point it is 10:10

AM: Do you have a liscence for that?
Me: NC is an open carry state that does not require a permit to carry a firearm openly, but I do in fact have a permit to carry.
AM: I need to see it or we can't sell you ammo.
Me: You do not need to see it, and I would just like to puchase some ammo and I will leave.
SG: I already told him that we don't have to sell him ammo if we don't feel comfortable.
AM: Did you start talking to him before 10pm?
SG: yes
AM: We wouldn't sell ammo after 10pm no matter what because it is agains policy, but because you were here before 10, we can sell you ammo. You are supposed to check your gun at the door acording to policy though. We had a guy bring a loaded rifle in here a while ago.
Me: There is no policy stating that you have to check your firearm, or be escorted through the store.
Random Guy: (pulls out CC permit) This says the state allows him to carry a weapon. He can buy ammo if he wants to.
Me: (at this point I show my CHP to appease SG and AM) See I have one of those too, and I just want to buy some ammo.
AM: We don't have to sell you ammo, and if SG doesn't feel comfortable then we won't.
SG: You can sell him ammo, I won't though.

Paraphrase.
They tell me policy is that they will never sell ammo after ten, and they will do this just because I was there before ten rolled around. The SG says that corporate policy is that he doesn't have to sell me ammo, and that if he said no, the no one in the store would sell me ammo. I told him corporate could also fire him. He told me that he had to take tests to work there and he knew the policy, and I was wrong.
The AM insisted that he escort me out of the store with the ammo, and that it was his right, and policy. I told him he can follow me where ever he wants to, but it is a waste of his time. Of course, he also insisted on carrying the ammo for me till the door. Once at the door the AM says the door 'security' may need to see my receipt and check the bag (funny since he just carried it to the door for me). I reply with, actually, I paid for this and it is my property and I don't have to show him anything. AM dissagrees, but I stop him and tell him that is an arguement for a later visit, and tell him to have a good night as I walk out the door; at 10:35.

A little irritated, so I'm going to go back tomorrow night to buy more ammo.

5/9/2009 11:29:23 PM

lol. shenanigans! how was the OC dinner? I'm gonna try to get back up with them this summer.

and find me some .380 Auto!

5/9/2009 11:35:25 PM

You should have taken a stand and not bought the Ammo

5/9/2009 11:39:00 PM

OC dinner was good.
5 adults, one kid.
Lots of stares, a few under the breath comments, but the staff seems to enjoy us being there.

Screw not buying ammo, I need it.
I'm headed back tomorrow morning and night though.

5/9/2009 11:42:49 PM

Quote :

"Do you have a liscence for that?"

hahaha folks who are so uninformed about their state's gun laws make me . so many folks think you have to have a license or permit to own any firearm.

5/10/2009 12:12:44 AM

kylekatern,
thanks for posting the link to the clips

5/10/2009 8:44:15 AM

Nice my son.

5/10/2009 9:25:05 AM

has anyone ever asked these morons what license?

5/10/2009 9:48:12 AM

So, I went back this morning.

Glenwood:
The lady who was supposed to be working the counter was off flirting with some other sales guy, and wasn't responding to the pages. An assistant manager told me this as he rung me up. As this was going on a stocking person, the AM, and I were talking about ammo sales. The stocker apparently has a bunch of guns and was asking me questions about OC, since he didn't have a permit. A random guy walks up and starts asking about OC, and if I ever get crap for it. He has a CHP. The AM also told me [b]there is no limit on ammo sales at this walmart, buy what you want[b]. I purchased 400 rounds, and there are 200 (4 boxes) left.


Briarcreek:
Takes a few minutes to find a person to sell me ammo, and then two people (employees) walk up. The first lady tells me her family bought her a S&W .40 pistol for mothers day and she needs ammo too. She knows nothing about guns, and I tell her about the difference between JHP and FMJ. The second lady is shocked that you have to practice with bullets. She thought you practiced with blanks. They had a 6 box limit, and I purchased my limit and left. No problems with the fact that I was OCing.

In .40, Briarcreek has 7 boxes of WWB 100rnd for $29.xx before tax and about 25 boxes of BB 50rnd for $12.xx before tax.

5/10/2009 11:41:00 AM

ignorance towards firearms and legalities and whatnot frustrates me to no end....


you did better than I would have... I would have just turned away and walked out- good to hear the day crew at least was worth a damn


have you thought about actually contacting corporate?

5/10/2009 2:33:11 PM

At least you can find ammo in walmart to buy, I haven't been able to find any .40 in either of Winston Salem's Walmarts for the last 2 weeks

5/10/2009 3:22:47 PM

Glenwood Walmart: 9 pm: Older gentleman wokring the area did not comment on my OC, we talked guns and ammo for a while, I asked him and he told me there was no ammo limit. They had restocked some things with a truck that came in tonight. I got the one box of 9mm BB they had left, and a Remington UMC 100 RD 45 ACP hollow point pack. They also had the Federal 100 round 223 packs back in stock. Thanked him, paid, took my ammo in my own hands, and walked out to my truck.

BrierCreek: 9:30 PM: When I arrived at sporting goods, another guy was there, also looking for 40. They still have LOTS of BB, and the WWB 100 packs. The guy from automotive came by, siad he would be back with us, walked off to help a tire customer. The gentleman asked me about OC, as he stated that he had moved here form new jersey, and had been glad to find he was able to apply for a CCHP, and that he was 50 days in on his wait for his. We talked ammo, guns, how long you should leave magazines loaded, and open carry laws and CC laws for 5-10 minutes.

An associate, Robin F, came by, saw us waiting, and went and got the keys from the automotive guy to sell to us. He, upon seeing my gun, called the manager to tell him that 'there is a guy here with a concealed weapon buying ammo, so you gotta walk him to the door'. He then rang up the other gentleman who was buying ammunition. I was limited to 6 boxes, and told that it was "corporate policy to reduce complaints about no ammo in stock" by Robin. He also asked me why I felt I needed to carry, asked me if I had a clip int he gun while he was talking on the phone, and in general was a little tweaked by the gun. While we waited for the Asst manager to show up, he told me he was 'not comfortable with selling to anyone with a gun', that he 'could refuse to sell anything to anyone, and the store cannot make him', that 'he moved down form new yaork, and its different there', and that 'walmart corporate policy is that all guns must be checked by the door guy and if you have a gun of any type all ammo must be escorted out'. I noted that I OC in other walmarts and have 0 issue, he stated he had worked there for 8 years, and knew the policy much better than me.

The Asst manager, EC, came by after helping some other customers on the floor, had Robin ring me up, and he walked the ammo in a cart to the door, and handed it to me just inside of the inner doors. I did not say anything to him or argue once he arrived. He was polite, and stated several times 'we are trying to get this issue worked out', and apologized multiple times for the trouble, and thanked me both for waiting for him in order to get the ammo, and for my time spent walking out with him, and for choosing to shop with them.

5/10/2009 10:44:50 PM

Lesson here is don't go to the walmart in briarcreek at night with a gun wanting ammo quick and easy.

[Edited on May 10, 2009 at 10:58 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2009 10:57:32 PM

I decided that I need, in centerfire pistol, at least 200 rounds minimum reserve for oddball guns or ones I do not shoot often, 357 sig/32/7.62X25/45, etc, and want a minimum of 1000 rounds per gun in 9mm and 40. Need both a LOT more 9mm, or a pile of primers with some hours spent reloading. I am now at 2k rounds of 40 SW set to the side, with 2 guns that fire it, so can hold off on that for a time, other than range ammo as needed.

5/10/2009 11:08:09 PM

During finals week, I saw a prison guard walk into McDonald's with an empty holster and I asked him if he had to check it at the armory. He stared at me kinda odd and jeered, "No, it's *mumble*". Was kinda odd to tell you the truth, but I don't think he likes his 9-5.

5/10/2009 11:20:02 PM

I didn't feel the need to make a new thread but the last part of this article made me chuckle....

Quote :

"Ban on Sunday hunting to continue TUESDAY, MAY 12, 2009 By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS What do you think? Be the first to comment on this story. RALEIGH (AP) — The state's 140-year-old ban on hunting with guns on Sundays appears safe for another year or two. A Senate judiciary committee today debated repealing the Sunday hunting ban, which the panel's chairman sidelined after hearing opposition. Republican Sen. Fletcher Hartsell of Cabarrus County said the measure is unlikely to come back before a Thursday deadline, which means it is unlikely to be heard again until 2011. Supporters argue the law is outdated and bars some people from hunting on what may be their only day off. Opponents said keeping the Sunday hunting ban allows bird-watchers, hikers, and churchgoers to be free of danger from a hunter's mistake. North Carolina is one of 11 states that restrict Sunday hunting."

http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/05/12/article/ban_on_sunday_hunting_to_continue

5/12/2009 1:08:54 PM