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"And Grindcore is a sub-genre of Hardcore...kind of why its a 'core. So it is infact hardcore."

Not in the sense in what hardcore is defined as today, which is what [name]sumfoo1[/name] originally meant with this thread. Today's 'hardcore' is ~. Grindcore has always been brutal as fuck. But I will agree with you about hardcore punk and the split off of grindcore from that.

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:09 PM. Reason : oh....and....2]

7/30/2008 3:09:11 PM

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"BTBAM = hardcore"

yeah i knew it, just being silly. srsly, their album Colors, ftw.

7/30/2008 3:09:28 PM

Yeah, genre labels are largely subjective. But that doesn't mean you have to act thickheaded to prove a point, blas


haha I'd call Soilent Green CAJUN DEATH

Assuming you're talking about the SG from Louisiana, with the singer from Goatwhore



and yeah...it's confusing, but grindcore is definitely not a subgenre of today's hardcore. Grindcore is sick, brutal shit and in no way related to screamo. It just kept the unfortunate "-core" suffix from it's roots, I suppose.

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:12 PM. Reason : df]

7/30/2008 3:10:20 PM

fucking double

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:11 PM. Reason : ||]

7/30/2008 3:10:28 PM

quoting my last post bastard.

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"So is ska-core included too ?"

cause i listen to a lot of that hahah

7/30/2008 3:10:50 PM

Ben and Sammy helped me out quite a bit with my record label. Being the first person to release Goatwhore pushed sales. Not that having Skinless, Dwid from Integrity, and Anton LaVey didnt help out.

7/30/2008 3:12:00 PM

Metal, and lots of it.

enemy of the sun
dismembered
hed pe
arch enemy
death angel
fear factory
hate eternal
meshuggah
obituary
polkadot cadaver
sepultura
soilwork
soulfly
the diilinger escape plan
the cavalera conspiracy
the human abstract
through the eyes of the dead
throwdown

7/30/2008 3:12:07 PM

I like Trivium a lot

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wzL61Lys5jU

7/30/2008 3:13:16 PM

That's cool you know Ben and Sammy. Ben's a cool motherfucker and Sammy's about as twisted as they come

7/30/2008 3:13:34 PM

talking about what exact metal sub-genres you like seems pretentious as fuck to me

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"Oh well I like SwedishDeathSoutherBlackStonerHairDoomThrashcore metal"

not saying anything about anyone here, but when I'm talkign to someone that feels they need to specify a "brutal new band" they found with eighteen goddamn qualifiers

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:17 PM. Reason : !]

7/30/2008 3:14:43 PM

Speaking of grindcore, my band Failed Séance invented the prog-grind (progressive grindcore), so suck on that!!!!!!!! mwahahahaha....

shameless self-promotion.

WHY DID YOU GET DEPLOYED TO GERMANY, MIKE?!?!?!?! WHY DID YOU JOIN THE ARMY, J.T.!?!?!?!?

7/30/2008 3:16:13 PM

Thats my point. Its all metal and hardcore.

7/30/2008 3:16:20 PM

There's a lot of nuances to the sounds of different subgenres, though.

7/30/2008 3:19:18 PM

but it's useful in a conversation with your peers. Most of the time when I tell people I listen to metal and not hardcore, they understand that I mean I like Suffocation and not KillWhitneyDead. Only those unacquainted with metal in all its forms and antagonists like Blas need further explanation

7/30/2008 3:19:33 PM

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" WHY DID YOU GET DEPLOYED TO GERMANY, MIKE?!?!?!?! WHY DID YOU JOIN THE ARMY, J.T.!?!?!?!? "

Failed Seance pwnt, stay home

7/30/2008 3:20:09 PM

^ we're gonna record a c.d. over the interwebz

7/30/2008 3:21:08 PM

I FUCKIN LOVE METAL!!!!!!!

Someone tell me the best Soilwork album to buy???

I like them all but I only wanna buy one

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:24 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2008 3:24:11 PM

^^you should call it 'Series of Tubes'

7/30/2008 3:30:57 PM

but if his riff gets stuck behind someone elses mail he'll get fucked

7/30/2008 3:31:53 PM

*raises hand*


but I like all kinds of music... depending upon my mood.

7/30/2008 3:31:58 PM

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"^^you should call it 'Series of Tubes'"

We're gonna call it "For Epiphany's Sake"

[Edited on July 30, 2008 at 3:32 PM. Reason : yeah boi]

7/30/2008 3:32:07 PM

Soilwork's best album is probably Natural Born Chaos. My second favorite is The Chainheart Machine.

7/30/2008 4:00:59 PM

I listen to metal.

I also like to hang out at Duff's in Brooklyn. The New York metal scene is cool.

7/30/2008 4:21:19 PM

i like metal, but i've only really gotten into it in the last few years so i wouldn't consider myself an expert or anything. recent shit i've heard and liked... Watain, Wolves in the Throne Room, Nachtmystium, earlier Emperor, Torche, Baroness, Sleep, some Eyehategod

i think the hardcore/metalcore shit is fucking terrible though (BTBAM ftl)

7/30/2008 5:38:13 PM

Fareaklol

7/30/2008 5:41:03 PM

i like metal and hardcore, but am a noob when it comes to bands

7/30/2008 5:43:25 PM

I like me some metal and some hardcore.

Sevendust, Dry Kill Logic, KillWhitneyDead (they crack me up), Static-X, Metallica, Hatebreed, Iron Maiden, and Slayer are some of my favorites.

7/30/2008 5:51:29 PM

i heart me some metal and some hardcore.

7/30/2008 5:53:34 PM

Yay, I, etc.

But mostly the good stuff... like Iron Maiden.

7/30/2008 5:57:17 PM

i <3 metal

7/30/2008 6:15:58 PM

Yes

7/30/2008 6:19:46 PM

i think i listen to something referred to as "epic metal"...not quite as hard, but heavy on instrumentation...some of it is speed metal-ish, and some of it is really pretty old

kamelot
(older) nightwish
dragonforce
stratovarius
blind guardian
avantasia
demons & wizards
epica
dark moor
sonata arctica

etc.

7/30/2008 6:19:48 PM

you listen to "power metal"

7/31/2008 1:11:13 AM

http://www.last.fm/user/Walls1441

i have a few metal songs.
i try not to play the 'genre' game except when it comes to black metal.

7/31/2008 1:16:18 AM

^^^ You might like Saratoga. They're like Menudo and Metallica had retarded bastard children.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 1:20 AM. Reason : ]

7/31/2008 1:20:39 AM

Quag you should listen to ensiferum.


they're like those bands but with more alcohol.

7/31/2008 1:23:54 AM

ftw

7/31/2008 1:36:05 AM

okay. i've been trying to get that cd for fucking ever. (without buying it)

the entire thing sounds like you're drudging through a swamp. i've only heard it from other people's houses but it seems like a great listen.

7/31/2008 1:53:25 AM

Obligatory:

7/31/2008 9:07:23 AM

They put on an awesome show

MURMAIDER MURMAIDER MUR

7/31/2008 9:40:52 AM

Cryptopsy puts on a kick ass show and so does Necrophagist

7/31/2008 9:43:05 AM

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"Someone tell me the best Soilwork album to buy??? "

Steelbath Suicide

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"i think the hardcore/metalcore shit is fucking terrible though (BTBAM ftl)"

I agree.

7/31/2008 10:10:01 AM

wings of domain ftmfw

if you're getting soilwork might as well get some darkane - rusted angel.

7/31/2008 1:24:03 PM

I never understood why in metal the guys always yellin the lyrics, like 1.how the F do they do shows, his/her voice has gotta be shot after a few hrs 2. DO THEY HAVE TO YELL, like couldnt they just sing or say the lyrics and turn up the treble a lil to get the same affect, i mean I just listened to Trivium song "like light to the flies" I can't even understand what the first guy yellin is talking about, but the chorus/vocals were great as well as the music....no disrespect to metal, i mean the guitar is my favorite instrument and I love DMB, Nirvana, AC/DC and Led Zepplin...i just cant get with all the yellin...even thought Deathklok's show is pretty funny.....

also I was always curious, when Deathklok does a concert do they acually perform in real life, or do they do it all animated on a big screen or something

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 1:40 PM. Reason : v]

7/31/2008 1:39:47 PM

dude the hardcore/metalcore people are the ones i can't figure out... i can't even do that for a minute let alone an entire show

7/31/2008 1:45:15 PM

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"Quag you should listen to ensiferum."

I went to go see them at paganfest when it came to raleigh. I'm just starting to like some heavier music and my friend convinced me to go with him. It was my first time going to see anything resembling that style of music. Even at a show where people are thrashing around and moshing, they're still pretty friendly. My friend threw me in the pit and I ended up falling down but as soon as that happened a couple guys were helping me up. It was a surprisingly cool environment, but epic and energetic at the same time.

I've also played the hell out of the Dethalbum recently and Metalocalypse is by far my favorite show. Any suggestions for bands/songs that are similar to Dethklok?

7/31/2008 1:46:12 PM

supposedly if you do the vocals correctly you limit the use of your vocal chords tremendously and its mostly pushing air. but don't ask me thats just what i've read from rumors on the internets.

^ paganfest was a blast. Bands like dethklok? ARCH ENEMY GET THE FIRST 4 ALBUMS.
if you help people up in the pit, they will help you.

7/31/2008 1:46:51 PM

^^^^ wat

and yes, they play on stage with the cartoon looping in the backgroud to make it seem as if the cartoon dethklok is playing on stage

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 1:49 PM. Reason : .]

7/31/2008 1:46:56 PM

Scratch that, just get Arch Enemy - Burning Bridges


try to avoid their newer cds. Anthems of rebellion and Ries of the tyrant are terrible.

7/31/2008 1:50:32 PM

^^

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM. Reason : o]

7/31/2008 1:50:44 PM